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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

There are 2 things however. there do exist socket 478 motherboards with PCIe and DDR2, i'm making a build log on one. not only can it run HD youtube which is un heard of for a Pentium 4 it's can also run Far Cry 3 blood dragon at 30 fps. biggrin.gif

there also exists a CPU adapter for socket 478, a socket 478 to 479 adapter that lets you run Pentium M CPUs on a select few Asus Motherboards i also have one of those too.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1399202/skt-478-pentium-4-to-skt-479-pentium-m-upgrade

I guess i just thought it was interesting. it's worth noting i think those 775 to 478 adapters were way cheaper at first.

Hi cdoublejj,
did you even fully read my post? I already mentioned that ASUS CT-479 adapter and that I bought one back in 2005 and that I still have that system. But thanks for the info biggrinsmiley.gif
I never saw one of that 478 to 775 before but I also think like you said that at the time they were released they were a lot cheaper.
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What kind of a Pentium 4 is that? Does it run overclocked at 12 GHz?

I am asking b/c my Northwood P4@2.8GHz can barely run WoW Vanilla @ 1024Χ768 @ around 15 FPS, all settings at lowest and most eye candy off (i.e. everything that allows an "off" option" set to "off").

I imagine that in order for it to run Far Cry at 30 FPS...:

a. Far Cry should run at 320X480 resolution (Amiga 500 resolution@4096 colours palette /w Blitter)
b. Or, my P4 should be overclocked at 12 GHz or so.

...

Like he said games still mainly depend on GPU power, so if your board has an PCI-E Slot you can still put that little Titan Z / Titan Black / R9-290X or 780Ti Black in there and benefit of it. How much is very different from game to game. Some will run like **** if you only have a single core or a generally slow CPU but some will run quite good. So of course you will limit these cards a lot but I bet that with a quite decent card you still can play some newer games with a fast Pentium 4.
But in case of Far Cry 3 I also doubt that he could get 25-30 FPS with that regular P4, for one reason that FC3 doesn't run on a single core (but I am not sure if it works with a single core with HT) and for the other reason that the Dunia Engine used in FC3 scales quite good from two up to 4 cores and even more and with a higher resolution and high details you need a good CPU and GPU to get more than 30 FPS.

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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

Are you doing drugs? The Xeons are higher binned and people are getting 4.x to 4.6 on air cooling and AIOs... unless you mean certain xeons but, from all accounts i've been seeing great clocks and performance.

I wouldn't count on getting 4+ GHz with all these Xeons on every board. 3.8 - 4.0 GHz is a more realistic assumption. And for all that CPU-Z validate screens out there, I wouldn't take that as a measurement on how good these cpus are in general. And who knows if these systems are stable.
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Originally Posted by alacrity View Post

Anybody notice any power savings with the L5420 or other 50w Xeons? Compared to my Q8300 with a Kill-A-Watt, the power savings are negligible.

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L v1.0 F9 BIOS Settings with Xeon microcode added.
(4) 2gb DDR2 800 dimms, GeForce GT610 video card.
SSE4.1 and VT-x extensions are seen in CPU-Z after BIOS modded.

CPUs:
2.5ghz L5420 50w tdp
2.5ghz Q8300 95w tdp

77w idle / 141w prime95 L5420
77w idle / 150w prime95 Q8300

As patentman already said, these are quite different models. The L5420 has 2 x 6MB cache whereas the Q8300 only has 2 x 2MB. That 12MB cache of the L5420 takes up a lot of space and transistor count on the DIE and needs some power too. The TDP is a rating mainly used for mainboard compatibility. That should be the maximum Watt the CPU could use if it is run on full load. But it doesn't mean that it has to use that much. The VID of the CPUs differ within a range that intel states. In case of that Q8300 you could get a cpu that needs almost 95W under full load but I guess most of them will need around 50-60W. In case of these L5420 it seems like intel selected only the ones with a low voltage to stay under 50W so I guess these L5420 will all need around 40-50W under full load.
And after all intel seems to put that TDP over some cpu models with different speeds like the 95W TDP from Q8300 up to the Q9650. But it should be quite clear that it should overall raise from the lowest to the highest model in general.
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i'd think we would know if they aren't stable. keep in mind Intel more than likely saved the highest bins for Xeons since they are for servers and need to be the most stabilist CPUs possible since in a lot of cases they run 100% there entire working lives depending on the application.

At the very least they are better than Q9000 series if not for price alone. tongue.gif

Yeah overclocking is NEVER guaranteed. However i'm seeing 4.0 fairly often over there in the sister thread or so i thought/think.
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Hey guys! I've read most pages of this thread! I've ordered an E5420 because I couldn't find the SLBBM E5450 I wanted for cheap. Today I noticed a new listing of E5450s so I ordered one as well! wink.gif Can someone safely mod my MB Bios with the microcodes please? I have done it myself already, but it's the only s775 MB I have and I am afraid of flashing it! I current;y use a modded bios , so if someone could add the mcodes for me it would be awesome! Download link is here (taken from xtremesystems thread ) .Thank you!

P5Q non Pro
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Hi takkaros.
Are you Greek? That`s what the username points out.
Είσαι Έλληνας;
Anyway, if you are PM me. I can assist you better in Greek.

I see you prefer a modded bios over the official.
I could mod it, Asus intel chipset bios mods so nicely but I will not. At least won`t upload it in public as a modded bios may not work the same in every situation. I think the Raid Option Rom is also modded.
So if memory table is changed and a user finds his system be unstable after the Xeon upgrade then he will think it is the Xeon and not the modded bios` fault.

If you like the official bios with Xeon microcodes then here you are:
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P5Q Xeon 5400 mod bios

P5Q-ASUS-2209-XEON5400.zip 701k .zip file
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Γεια σου φίλε!
Hello! I just PM'd you! The specific bios was modded long after the official support of ASUS, in memory of the P5Q motherboards!

"* Better CPU clocking
* Better stability
* Increased FSB limits" ( quotted )

Owners of P5Q and viariants should check it out
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Yes, I`m aware of those modded bios.
But I would only recommend them after someone does the Xeon upgrade.
As he may get unstable out of the bios and not out of the cpu change.

I have modded myself some bios changing the Option Roms, did not saw any better perf difference in RAID.
My mem can run at more than 1157 5-5-5-15 so no need there too.

Anyway, I`ll mod it and send it by PM.
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Couldn't agree more! It's better to try with the original bios/settings when booting a new installation.
I will wait for the PM. Thank you very much!
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I got an error of larger size that can fitted into this bios.
"NF68_P33.BIN have not enough space for adding ROM. (Over 3A78h bytes) "
So I used another good working NCPUCODE.BIN that has integrated Xeon 5400 microcodes.
It should work OK but use at your own risk as this NCPUCODE.BIN comes from a gigabyte modded bios.

NF68_P33_Xeon.zip 418k .zip file

Thank You Very Much!.
I had update your bios (with your XENON modifications) but no positive effect.
Computer recognized XEON in bios (I tried two xeonos E5420 and X5450) but when windows XP is starting - (before turning GUI) rebooting.
I tried to clean install WIn7 64bit - no positive efect to. Crashing after about 30 second of instalations.
The same effect is on oryginal bios P33 from EVGA.
On the processor Q8200 - everything is OK.
I tried run Linux Knoppix Live CD - but crushing after 30 seconds.
Something still missing in modified bios, I think.

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Have you tried using another sticker on the Xeon?
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Yes. I have a separate stiker on any XEONS.
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