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Really guys? AMI Bios versions are not that hard to mod.
Okay anyway ... here you go:

@hauzmajstor (Hausmeister ... hehe)
P5K3-Deluxe-1206-Xeon5400.zip 1035k .zip file

@Kid Cudi
WARNING!!! I had to remove some old microcodes from the BIOS file since there was not enough room. The ones I removed related to old Pentium 4 single core CPUs. So these CPUs may not work in that board anymore or maybe with a message / reduced feature set.
Anyway, all other CPUs should work (Core 2 series, Pentium D, Pentium Dual Core and so on)
P5K-PRO-1303-Xeon5400.zip 778k .zip file

So if you want to use some old single core P4s with that board flash back to original BIOS!
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@Bucho
Thank you for bios and WARNING!thumb.gif
post #2923 of 12376
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Originally Posted by jihe View Post

'Upgrading' from Q9450 to X5460 is an utter waste of money. Get a modern platform and sell your 775 gears while they're still worth something.

a high clocked top end core 2 quad IS on par with a first gen i5 specially if paired with ddr3. also upgrading to x5460 form a q9450 would also NET you money since the Q9450 sells for a higher price than the x5460. all assuming one sells the q9450.

40-50 USD for the X5460

60-75 USD for the q9450

as per ebay completed listings.
Edited by cdoublejj - 4/7/14 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by jihe View Post

'Upgrading' from Q9450 to X5460 is an utter waste of money. Get a modern platform and sell your 775 gears while they're still worth something.

a high clocked top end core 2 quad IS on par with a first gen i5 specially if paired with ddr3. also upgrading to x5460 form a q9450 would also NET you money since the Q9450 sells for a higher price than the x5460. all assuming one sells the q9450.

40-50 USD for the X5460

60-75 USD for the q9450

as per ebay completed listings.

Except the xeons don't run anywhere near as stable as native 775 quads. Those two pins are not the entire difference between 775 and 771. Most of the rest are power supply pins, and running a xeon puts extra pressure on the rest. I’ve been through several boards that were working one day and refused to boot the next. So unless you are going from a dual to a quad, the xeons are not worth it. As the previous user pointed out, there's no difference between a q9450@3.6 and x5460@4.2 in games, because at those clocks you bottleneck is actually the 775 platform with the high memory latency from fsb etc.
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Originally Posted by jihe View Post

Except the xeons don't run anywhere near as stable as native 775 quads. Those two pins are not the entire difference between 775 and 771.

I am surprised, I have been using two xeon quad core machines for months and they are very stable and cool. One is on x3353 and other on e5462.

At a negligible cost I was able to update two systems, Its a real value for money for me.
post #2926 of 12376
@Bucho Thank you,it works thumb.gif
post #2927 of 12376
I need a bios for a P5Q Deluxe that supports a single core Xeon L3014 and a dual core Xeon X5260. Board seems to run ok with unmodded bios (605 FSB under LN2 cooling for the dual core) but always complains about unleashing the full powah!

thanks,
post #2928 of 12376
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Originally Posted by jihe View Post

As the previous user pointed out, there's no difference between a q9450@3.6 and x5460@4.2 in games, because at those clocks you bottleneck is actually the 775 platform with the high memory latency from fsb etc.

Both the previous poster you quote, as well as you, do not have a clue.

Of course there is a difference in games between a 3.6 GHz and 4.3 GHz OC, else none of us would bother overclock beyond 3.6 GHz, and all Socket 775 gamers would own Q9450's.
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post #2929 of 12376
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Both the previous poster you quote, as well as you, do not have a clue.

Of course there is a difference in games between a 3.6 GHz and 4.3 GHz OC, else none of us would bother overclock beyond 3.6 GHz, and all Socket 775 gamers would own Q9450's.

Arxontas is right, there is a difference between those two speeds and I would say there is a nearly linear increase in performance with higher cpu clock.
For example, those are my passmark CPU Mark scores on same platform (P5Q3 Deluxe) taken with Xeons on stock speeds:

E5420 E0 (2,5GHz) - 3899p.
E5450 C0 (3,0GHz) - 4670p.
X5450 C0 (3,0GHz) - 4678p.
X5482 E0 ES (3,2GHz)- 5008p.

There is 20% difference in operating freq. between 5420 and 5450, so with simple calculation 1,2 x 3899p = 4678,8p and this is a perfect score of 5450 processor. I also made tests with Aida64 on X5450 C0 @ 3,6GHz (20% OC) and most of CPU scores were about 20% better. ARMA 2 runs much smoother on X5482 than E5420 (I made a map with lots of units). Of course not all application and games will "see the difference". My 3DMark11 scores are nearly the same on 5420 and 5482 probably because of my Radeon 6670.
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My 3DMark11 scores are nearly the same on 5420 and 5482 probably because of my Radeon 6670.

Your 3DMark11 Performance score is divided into two parts:

1. Physics
2. Graphics.

CPU performance is measured on the "physics" score, so that is the score you should compare to determine increase of CPU gaming performance. Physics score is also dependent, to a lesser degree, on memory bandwidth as well.
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