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Newbie running into issues with heatshrinkless methods - Won't fit into connector

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Hey all, running into some newbie issues with sleeving thus far. I'm mainly focusing on the heatshrinkless methods right now, outlined in the Lutro0 videos.

Here's what I purchased from Lutro0
Stiff line PET sleeving
550 paracord
1/4" heatshrink sleeving

I got a cheap ATX mobo extension cable and have been using that for practice. I know I can't become a pro overnight, which is exactly why I'm practicing and asking for some advice.

I tried the paracord first, following Lutro0's video. I got the paracord nice and secure, as well as taut and smooth over the wire. I made sure that the "tack" was in the area that Lutro0 instructed. However, when I went to insert it back into the connector, it was impossible. The wire and paracord simply bunched up when trying to insert the wire instead of sliding in. I took it out, made sure that my tack wasn't too fat, but it wouldn't work.

I then moved to the PET stiffline sleeving, once again following the tutorial. I ran into a similar issue, but with the PET sleeving being a bit stiffer, I was able to get it into the connector after heating it and pushing in.

I need help! I have a few possible reasons why I'm running into this issue, please let me know if I'm on the wrong track.
1) The wire on this practice harness is too limp - it is not providing enough body for me to force into the connector.
2) Paracord is too limp - it is not providing enough body for me to force into the connector.
3) Heatshrink is not shrinking enough and is not forcing the PET to get as "smashed" as it should be.
4) This is a crazy connector, where the back socket isn't large enough to accept sleeved wire.

I'd appreciate any help possible. Here's a quick pic of what I got done after a few attempts with the PET. Notice how the sleeving is "bunching" up and bulging a bit when exiting the connector.

post #2 of 9
If it's 'bunching up' then there's a good chance you're not stretching the sleeve enough. It looks that way with the PET sleeve.
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If it's 'bunching up' then there's a good chance you're not stretching the sleeve enough. It looks that way with the PET sleeve.

I'm pretty sure I was stretching pretty far - If I release tension on the sleeve when stretching it, it pops back about 3/4 an inch short of the place where it needs to be, which leads me to believe its pretty darn stretched. I'll give it another shot though.
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Can you do some photos of the paracord sleeved wires with close ups of the ends?
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Can you do some photos of the paracord sleeved wires with close ups of the ends?

I actually trashed them, but I'll try again tonight. Thank you so much for the help.
post #6 of 9
When you're measuring out the paracord stretch it hard a couple of times before cutting and then when it's on the wire stretch it 2 or 3 times and re-trim if necessary. Sometimes some paracord will stretch a bit more each time. You will probably find that it stretches different amounts from colour to colour and batch to batch.

The other thing that might have happened is that the paracord is tacked slightly too far up the pin. Sometimes you can get away with trimming the excess off with a scalpel rather than redoing it.
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post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Big Elf View Post

When you're measuring out the paracord stretch it hard a couple of times before cutting and then when it's on the wire stretch it 2 or 3 times and re-trim if necessary. Sometimes some paracord will stretch a bit more each time. You will probably find that it stretches different amounts from colour to colour and batch to batch.

You hit the nail on the head! I stretched the bejezus out of the paracord after cuttting, as well as on the wire. Plugged in much more smoothly and I was able to have success with 2 wires in a row. Still getting a little bit of bulging, is that normal?




One thing that I'm having a challenge with is getting a very tight tack. The tack doesn't seem to stick to the wire firstly, and I can't get it really tight to the wire either. I'm afraid that it will eventually slip upwards on the wire and look hideous. Any tips on that?
post #8 of 9
It can go up the pin another mm or so. Put a bit more heat into the paracord and make more of a cone shape on the end if you can. I actually melt a sort of 'halo' on the end of the paracord so it's molten all round and press it down. It will burn your fingers a bit.

You seem to be twisting it as well (looking at the 2nd pic down), or it could be that the pattern on the paracord is twisted.
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You seem to be twisting it as well (looking at the 2nd pic down), or it could be that the pattern on the paracord is twisted.

Thanks so much for the tips. The twist was my fault I think, and made a bit more apparent by twisting the wire to take the pic. I'll continue practicing, but I'm pretty happy with my progress thus far. Appreciate it!
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