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I don't know but after I changes my fan settings to manual my problems went away. My problem / issues is this and I already posted it here before,

That is what I'am getting before, can you tell me what cause this? If you can tell me, and manage to find out the solution then I might say that the card is not over heating.
Here is the list that I've done so far and did not sort things out.

7. Memtest both my RAM (Passed)

 

You never gave an answer to my question about VRM temperature.  Is it VRM1 or VRM2 at 73+?  These cards can easily run at 70C on the core, if yours is having problems doing that then maybe there is an issue with the card.  Use GPU-Z or HWInfo to monitor VRM temps.

 

I looked at several reviews of the Devil 270X and none of them have the card breaching 68C under worse conditions than game play; some were Furmark or 3DMark Firestrike loops for 30 minutes.  Either the card needs better airflow to it, or there could be something wrong with the way the HSF is mounted/seated.

 

I should be receiving my Devil tomorrow and I will have it to do a direct comparison with yours.

 

Do you have different RAM to try?  Memtest isn't always a definitive test for bad RAM.


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You never gave an answer to my question about VRM temperature.  Is it VRM1 or VRM2 at 73+?  These cards can easily run at 70C on the core, if yours is having problems doing that then maybe there is an issue with the card.  Use GPU-Z or HWInfo to monitor VRM temps.

I looked at several reviews of the Devil 270X and none of them have the card breaching 68C under worse conditions than game play; some were Furmark or 3DMark Firestrike loops for 30 minutes.  Either the card needs better airflow to it, or there could be something wrong with the way the HSF is mounted/seated.

I should be receiving my Devil tomorrow and I will have it to do a direct comparison with yours.

Do you have different RAM to try?  Memtest isn't always a definitive test for bad RAM.

Its VRM1 that gets the73c. GPU-Z or HWInfo is what I used to monitor my temps. Like I said on my previous post
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So after they test it the BSOD did not occur, while playing games. Then I ask them to run a sensor to monitor the temps of the card, and by looking at it, the temperature is only 60-62c which is way cooler than what I'am getting in my case. (It's summertime so expect it to be hotter) Maybe because of the room where they conduct the testing which is air conditioned. Usually the blue screen occurs for 15mins to 30mins, but It did not. So my card is NTF (No trouble Found).

The card is warmer in my case because my room is not air conditioned, and take note it is summer time expect it to be hotter. Of course the temperature may vary depending on how you test it and consider the room temperature. There is nothing wrong on how the HSF is seated / mounted because testing from another pc from the shop shows that the card is way cooler because of the room where it is tested was air conditioned. And in fact it is normal.

I don't have another ram available I just got 2x4GB. But memtest is more reliable than any other. What do you prefer? I also tried the windows memory diagnostics and found no problem with my ram. I will try to set the fan in auto then placed one stick of ram and post the result later. If I didn't get BSOD while testing one stick and fan set to auto, then maybe I have a bad Ram.
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Its VRM1 that gets the73c. GPU-Z or HWInfo is what I used to monitor my temps. Like I said on my previous post
The card is warmer in my case because my room is not air conditioned, and take note it is summer time expect it to be hotter. Of course the temperature may vary depending on how you test it and consider the room temperature. There is nothing wrong on how the HSF is seated / mounted because testing from another pc from the shop shows that the card is way cooler because of the room where it is tested was air conditioned. And in fact it is normal.

I don't have another ram available I just got 2x4GB. But memtest is more reliable than any other. What do you prefer? I also tried the windows memory diagnostics and found no problem with my ram. I will try to set the fan in auto then placed one stick of ram and post the result later. If I didn't get BSOD while testing one stick and fan set to auto, then maybe I have a bad Ram.

mine starts to overheat if i have hot room. the ac makes all the difference, 7 Case fans, and 4 GPU fans.... plus i chopped out sections of my case, removed empty HD bays for a fan to get directly onto GPU's . way better.
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I have MSI R9 270X Gaming.

I don't want to use Afterburner, or other programs for custom fan profiles, because it crash my online games.
Mostly play BF2 BC Vietnam and FarCry 3.

I just want to know, is it possible to edit and flash BIOS by myself, only with new fan profile?

Can I do that with VBE7 and what about this warning:
"Modifications only affect the legacy BIOS, and after saving, UEFI image will be disabled (in case you have UEFI vBIOS)"

Please, can someone explain to me this legacy/UEFI BIOS things?

Thanks
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Its VRM1 that gets the73c. GPU-Z or HWInfo is what I used to monitor my temps. Like I said on my previous post
The card is warmer in my case because my room is not air conditioned, and take note it is summer time expect it to be hotter. Of course the temperature may vary depending on how you test it and consider the room temperature. There is nothing wrong on how the HSF is seated / mounted because testing from another pc from the shop shows that the card is way cooler because of the room where it is tested was air conditioned. And in fact it is normal.

I don't have another ram available I just got 2x4GB. But memtest is more reliable than any other. What do you prefer? I also tried the windows memory diagnostics and found no problem with my ram. I will try to set the fan in auto then placed one stick of ram and post the result later. If I didn't get BSOD while testing one stick and fan set to auto, then maybe I have a bad Ram.

 

Not sure what else to say about your issue then other than it doesn't make any sense from my personal experience.  My Sapphire Vapor-X HD4890 didn't exhibit issues for gaming until it was in the mid-upper 90C when overclocked/volted.  I have had GCN cards easily exceed 70C once they were overclocked and mining BTC; a far more strenuous affair than playing a game for a couple hours.  I was running a 7950 and a 7870 in a Coolermaster HAF XB, both air cooled.

 

I believe I have had this very same atikmdag.sys error, it looks very familiar, before and faulty RAM was the culprit.  I tried everything you have done...fresh Windows with updates, all drivers numerous times, BIOS, checked PSU, hard drives, etc. etc.

 

I don't prefer any synthetic RAM test because they don't exactly replicate real world use.  Several, 4, times, if I recall, from my experience with strange, unexplainable, or hard to pinpoint issues has faulty RAM been the culprit even after it has passed Memtest86 through DOS for 12+ hours of testing.  Last time I ran into an issue like this I actually purchased MemTest Pro from HCI Design and let it run for 12+ hours overnight and the test came back clean.  It wasn't until I swapped different RAM that the issues ceased.  This has happened with Crucial Ballistix, G.Skill Ripjaws X, G.Skill Ares, and Corsair Vengence; all of which were DDR3 of varying speeds.

 

Pull the RAM out and re-seat the DIMMs, a tiny piece of dust can ruin everything.  Use one DIMM as you have mentioned, and try different slots; motherboard could be faulty as well. 

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I have MSI R9 270X Gaming.
I don't want to use Afterburner, or other programs for custom fan profiles, because it crash my online games.
Mostly play BF2 BC Vietnam and FarCry 3.
I just want to know, is it possible to edit and flash BIOS by myself, only with new fan profile?
Can I do that with VBE7 and what about this warning:
"Modifications only affect the legacy BIOS, and after saving, UEFI image will be disabled (in case you have UEFI vBIOS)"
Please, can someone explain to me this legacy/UEFI BIOS things?
Thanks
Hi and welcome to OCN thumb.gif
Does CCC fan profiling also crash your games?..It seems strange to me..
I believe that with VBE7 you can make a new fan profile for your gpu.
A nice tutorial on flashing your gpu Bios can be found here
UEFI(Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) is a standard firmware interface for PCs, designed to replace BIOS (basic input/output system).
I believe that the 270X Gaming supports both legacy and UEFI BIOS,meaning if your computer has an older legacy BIOS or a newer graphical UEFI BIOS then this video card will work on either one.
food for thought
   
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Ok I manage to solve my issue which is giving me headaches for days. mad.gif And I just want to share for all those having an issue with their card that keeps getting blue screen while playing or pushing the card to its limit. With error code of 0xa000001 or atikmdag.sys related issue and also the "Display Driver stopped responding and has recovered" message like mine. So I brought my card to the shop where I purchased it, and report whats happening. I just tell them I'm having BSOD while playing intense game such as COD: Ghost, BF4 and Skyrim using different drivers, from 13.12 up to the latest beta. I'am properly uninstalling the driver using software like DDU. My PSU is Corsair 650W, and my ram sticks are in good shape. So after they test it the BSOD did not occur, while playing games. Then I ask them to run a sensor to monitor the temps of the card, and by looking at it, the temperature is only 60-62c which is way cooler than what I'am getting in my case. (It's summertime so expect it to be hotter) Maybe because of the room where they conduct the testing which is air conditioned. Usually the blue screen occurs for 15mins to 30mins, but It did not. So my card is NTF (No trouble Found). smile.gif

Then after that I install the card in my system and Increase the fan speed by 50% because it is set to auto by default. Then after playing for an hour, the blue screen did not occur and also no "Display Driver stopped responding and has recovered" popup message on system tray. thumb.gif

Bottom line: I think R9 cards specially the 270x will shutdown itself or BSOD if the VRM and the GPU temps is reaching 73c+ using the auto fan speed of the card. So its an over heating issue because of the poor fan settings of the card if the fan speed is set to auto mode, You can fix this out by increasing the fan speed of the card manually (Mine set to 50%) or depending on how hot is it. Or by lowering your GPU and memory clock which I do not recommend because if you're a gamer / enthusiast you want to get the best performance so I will not underclock my card . By the way my card is Powercolor R9 270x Devil. I don't know if this will work for you, but just give it a try then show the results. smile.gif


Yep, you should set a user fan profile that keeps the card cool. Mine is set to run at 60% above 50c and 80% above 65c. I can't hear them much at all when gaming but I am not paying attention either.
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Quick MS Paint photo editing later and here are my Valley Extreme HD (Custom preset is just Extreme HD in window mode) and Heaven Extreme scores. The card was stressed as far as it goes (1219/1770), the CPU is at its thermal limit so I can't clock that higher until I upgrade my cooling. To be honest I have no idea if these scores are good or bad, but from what I've seen the look okay, feel free to correct me though.

How much could I gain from overclocking RAM? Currently running stock @ 1600MHz, could do 2133 for suicide runs. One thing I noticed though is that an unstable CPU will bring my scores down even if clocked higher, could RAM have the same effect?
Feel free to post your scores with similar hardware setups, I welcome friendly competition. smile.gif
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AMD FX-8350 @ 4.9GHz M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Powercolor R9 280X TurboDuo ADATA XPG 8GB PC3-12800 CL9 V1.0  
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Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 ADATA SP920 256GB Enermax LiqMax 240 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
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Philips 246V5 Philips 196VL CM Storm Trigger-Z MX Brown Seasonic M12II-750 EVO 
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Cooler Master CM 690 II Genius GILA Aerocool Strike X Super Pad Pioneer SE-M521 
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TP-Link TL-WN881ND 
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