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No, I haven't OC'd my 280X yet, but if I were going to push it then I'd check what the max voltage is (quick Google says 1.3V, but don't take my word for it) just to be sure I wasn't going to fry my Card. Afterburner is pretty good at not letting you damage your Card with over volting but I think it's best to do your Research on this one! smile.gif

Having said that, some Cards are voltage locked (some of the 280x's anyway) which means that no matter what you put in afterburner the voltage won't Change. Google should be able to tell you if your Card is voltage locked or not.


As for GPUZ I'm still on 0.7.2, so Im way out of the Loop on this one, maybe someone else knows the answer? biggrin.gif
 
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post #5222 of 9745
Oke gens,

I found a hack way to to bypass the MSI afterburner voltage slider. Now i can add +500 or -500 volts on the card.
I will post soon how to do!
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Hello there! Just got my Sapphire 270X Vapor-X today, and never thought the bottleneck would be this hard as this is the first time experiencing it. LOL. doh.gif
Can you guys recommend some programs to test it with?
I already tested it with Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0, is using FurMark safe? I read some posts about it killing gpus.
Is it safe to put the power limit to max (+50)? Also what does the UEFI button do? I'm using Windows Pro 8.1 that has been updated to the latest updates earlier. Thanks! thumb.gif

Sorry for the noob questions, cause this is my first time getting a GPU like this, GPUs I used are Sapphire 5670, and the rest are integrated ones. wheee.gif
Driver version is 14.3.
Anyone has an idea on why my GPU-Z isn't like this one GPU-Z (Click to show)
Here's mine. Mine! (Click to show)

Unigine is great as well as anything 3DMark. Best stability test I have come to find these days is the Final Fantasy XIV Benchmark.

Furmark gives you an absolute worst case scenario so temperature and power draw from that is going to be worse than just about anything else you subject your card to. It was killing GPUs back in the day more frequently when Nvidia Fermi was new and those cards ran as hot as, or hotter, than the reference 290(X) now. It COULD do damage if you're not careful, but more than likely the GPU will cause a BSOD to stop it from blowing up once temperatures get too high.

If you have strange issues with games or benchmarks, I would suggest using the 13.12 drivers as anything 14.X are still having the bugs worked out.

50% power is OK, and it is going to increase the amperage/wattage the card will draw, usually extending Overclocking abilities. Just be mindful of temperatures when increasing this, voltage and clocks.

The GPU-Z looks different because your card has less sensors to monitor various stats.. Although yours does look a little scarce..
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Hello there! Just got my Sapphire 270X Vapor-X today, and never thought the bottleneck would be this hard as this is the first time experiencing it. LOL. doh.gif
Can you guys recommend some programs to test it with?
I already tested it with Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0, is using FurMark safe? I read some posts about it killing gpus.
Is it safe to put the power limit to max (+50)? Also what does the UEFI button do? I'm using Windows Pro 8.1 that has been updated to the latest updates earlier. Thanks! thumb.gif

Sorry for the noob questions, cause this is my first time getting a GPU like this, GPUs I used are Sapphire 5670, and the rest are integrated ones. wheee.gif
Driver version is 14.3.
Anyone has an idea on why my GPU-Z isn't like this one GPU-Z (Click to show)
Here's mine. Mine! (Click to show)

Your in the Club !!!

Unigen Valley and 3DMark Vantage have the most crash's for me and will let me know when I am not stable more than anything. Also try "Catzilla", it's a good system bench and fun to watch.

I would not use Furmark unless your just doing a burn in because it's just too intensive and not need real world conditions. Just my opinion.

I would use HWinfo64 to keep track of GPU voltages and temps.
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Oke gens,

I found a hack way to to bypass the MSI afterburner voltage slider. Now i can add +500 or -500 volts on the card.
I will post soon how to do!

I would be very careful with doing this. A slip of the finger with too much and you could fry your card in an instant.
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Unigine is great as well as anything 3DMark. Best stability test I have come to find these days is the Final Fantasy XIV Benchmark.

Furmark gives you an absolute worst case scenario so temperature and power draw from that is going to be worse than just about anything else you subject your card to. It was killing GPUs back in the day more frequently when Nvidia Fermi was new and those cards ran as hot as, or hotter, than the reference 290(X) now. It COULD do damage if you're not careful, but more than likely the GPU will cause a BSOD to stop it from blowing up once temperatures get too high.

If you have strange issues with games or benchmarks, I would suggest using the 13.12 drivers as anything 14.X are still having the bugs worked out.

50% power is OK, and it is going to increase the amperage/wattage the card will draw, usually extending Overclocking abilities. Just be mindful of temperatures when increasing this, voltage and clocks.

The GPU-Z looks different because your card has less sensors to monitor various stats.. Although yours does look a little scarce..

Oh, ok. I'll stick with Unigine and 3DMark for now and FFXIV later! So overclocking then is not recommended since I'm only using antec vp 450. biggrin.gif

Yes, the sensors tab looks the same as my 5670. Is that a bad thing? redface.gif
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Your in the Club !!!

Unigen Valley and 3DMark Vantage have the most crash's for me and will let me know when I am not stable more than anything. Also try "Catzilla", it's a good system bench and fun to watch.

I would not use Furmark unless your just doing a burn in because it's just too intensive and not need real world conditions. Just my opinion.

I would use HWinfo64 to keep track of GPU voltages and temps.

Thanks! Will try Catzilla too, so that I can make sure that this card is good 99.9% lol.

Got HWinfo64 earlier, not much detail on VRM's etc. Not sure what I'm missing out here. arrowheadsmiley.png
HWINFO (Click to show)


=

Just finished running 3DMark, and the results are
3DMARK (Click to show)
Need to upgrade CPU as soon as possible.


doh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gif

Will try the latest beta driver later! smile.gif

Thanks for the help BruceB, Roboyto and Devildog83! thumb.gif +
Edited by Anonizer - 4/11/14 at 9:48am
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Hello there! Just got my Sapphire 270X Vapor-X today, and never thought the bottleneck would be this hard as this is the first time experiencing it. LOL. doh.gif

I just picked up a Powercolor 270X Devil Edition and am very pleased with it so far. I haven't had a chance to OC yet but am looking forward to it.

I do know the rough limits of these cards from experience with a 7870 I had under a full Waterblock. My ASUS DC2 7870 would start to see a limit on core around 1200 with additional power/Voltage. I don't know if the 270X has had any improvements or not so you may be able to exceed those clocks. The GCN architecture seems to peak in the high 1200 to low 1300 range when pushing max voltage... unless you get a magical card of course :-D

I was very pleased seeing the factory Powercolor overclock on this 270X being 1180, knowing full well what a 7870 is capable of at 1200+. From all the reviews I have seen for the Devil, it likely won't push far past ~1225, but I'm certainly going to give it a shot. I'll have results from my endeavors up here and in my build log soon
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Oh, ok. I'll stick with Unigine and 3DMark for now and FFXIV later! So overclocking then is not recommended since I'm only using antec vp 450. biggrin.gif

Thanks for the help BruceB, Roboyto and Devildog83! thumb.gif +

What 80+ rating is that PSU? I'm only using a 450W PSU at the moment, it is 80+ Gold rated however. Rosewill Capstone PSUs are an extremely great product for the price! Usually made by Superflower with wonderful performance under all ranges of load.

I fully intend to find the maximum clocks for this card and will have my i7 3770k pushing at least 4.5Ghz
I'll let you know if I run into any power shortage from my PSU :-)
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Hello there! Just got my Sapphire 270X Vapor-X today, and never thought the bottleneck would be this hard as this is the first time experiencing it. LOL. doh.gif
Can you guys recommend some programs to test it with?
I already tested it with Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0, is using FurMark safe? I read some posts about it killing gpus.
Is it safe to put the power limit to max (+50)? Also what does the UEFI button do? I'm using Windows Pro 8.1 that has been updated to the latest updates earlier. Thanks! thumb.gif

Sorry for the noob questions, cause this is my first time getting a GPU like this, GPUs I used are Sapphire 5670, and the rest are integrated ones. wheee.gif
Driver version is 14.3.
Anyone has an idea on why my GPU-Z isn't like this one GPU-Z (Click to show)
Here's mine. Mine! (Click to show)

What the power limit does is, it will throttle the voltage and/or clocks to stay within a certain TDP range. So say your card has a TDP of 150W, but you apply an overclock that would cause it to draw 160W under load, it will throttle to a lower power state while under load, reducing performance.

Increasing this slider does not cause it to suddenly draw any more power than it normally would anyway....it just increases the point at which your card will throttle.

Normally you don't need to do anything with this as it will still stay under the TDP even with a healthy overclock, although with my ASUS 270 I had to put it at +20% to keep from throttling as the BIOS rates the TDP at a measly 113W (which is less than it needs to be so I just modded the BIOS to make it have a 136W TDP and leave the power slider at +0%....same diff)

So basically it's fine to increase this as much as you want and as long as you keep an eye on your temps and don't apply harmful voltage levels it is safe, but if you want it to be useful as a failsafe, it's best to keep it as low as possible, and only increase it IF you experience nuisance throttling, and doing so still does not put you above a harmful thermal threshold.
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When it Comes to PSUs always go Quality not quantity,and don't Forget it's not just about power, but also how constant the energy is (some say how 'clean' the energy is) and many other factors.

Check this thread: My old thread about halfway down the first page shilka lists a few good PSUs to look at.

also check this out: OCN FAQ: Recommended Power Supplies

I have a Seasonic 660xp (80+ Platinum) and I can say that I've had no Problems and that their customer Support is really good (I needed some more SATA power cables for my modular PSU, no Problem!).

One last Thing: like shilka says PSU brands are meaningless, look up the OEM. i.e. Google who made the unit, not who's sticker is on the side! biggrin.gif
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