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Thought I might as well ask this in here...

How close/what's the difference between the GPU and VRM temps as a general rule? Although in this case it's more specific to a 280x (Gigabyte Rev 2).

I have no VRM temp monitor on my card which is the main reason I'm asking.

Just tested 1185/1500 in Heaven 2.5. Ran through okay got to about 65c max GPU temp. Hoping to push it to 1200 on the core. This is at 1175v. Then I'll see how the memory hadles being OC'd.

Cheers.
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Thought I might as well ask this in here...

How close/what's the difference between the GPU and VRM temps as a general rule? Although in this case it's more specific to a 280x (Gigabyte Rev 2).

I have no VRM temp monitor on my card which is the main reason I'm asking.

Just tested 1185/1500 in Heaven 2.5. Ran through okay got to about 65c max GPU temp. Hoping to push it to 1200 on the core. This is at 1175v. Then I'll see how the memory hadles being OC'd.

Cheers.

 

Just did some extensive benchmarking with a friends Visiontek R9 280X, which doesn't have as nice of a cooler as your Gigabyte.   On his card the core/VRM1 temperatures were always within a few degrees C of each other if not matching.  The Visiontek does have a backplate on it from the factory, so that could be assisting in VRM cooling. 

 

Your card does have a heatsink on the VRM1 so that is a good thing. The 2.0 board is not reference, just in case you were planning to go full water.

 

The Visiontek cooler really surprised me at how well it cooled both the core/VRM1, as well as how quiet it is at 80% fan.  The clocks on it are decent 1190/1700 @1300mV +20% power; and that is with Elpida RAM.

 

You've got nice clocks for that voltage.

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Hi guys! I have an Sapphire Vapor-X R9 280x and currently overclocking it. Is this card, or that particular BIOS, voltage lock? I can't get over 1.191 for nothing.... even if I set it to 1.3. The 'Power Limit' seems to be working though. Thankfully I can overvolt the memory. I guess my true question is "How much voltage is getting into the danger zone on GPUs?" Currently 1.551v.

[EDIT] I guess the VDDC went down 1.189 since I raised the memory volts a little bit.

 

  • VDDC is the value you're going to want to watch.  If you were at 1.551V on the core the card would, likely, be toast. 

 

  • I'm not sure what MVDDC is exactly because my cards don't display that value.  My educated guess would be memory voltage, as most GDDR5 operates at around 1.5V

 

  • Dangerzone on these cards I believe is north of 1.3V;  Someone else here will have a more exact answer for you since I don't have extensive experience with the 79XX/280(X) cards.

 

  • I highly doubt the card is voltage locked.  If it were hardware limited you wouldn't be able to adjust the setting in an OC program.  I experienced this with an XFX 7950 I briefly owned.

 

What program are you using to OC?  If it is Trixx make sure you have ULPS disabled and 'Force Constant Voltage' checked in the options tab.  If you are using AfterBurner I suggest giving Trixx a shot as well.

 

 

You must be adding a decent amount of voltage to the memory, it is rare to see VRM2 hotter than VRM1.

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Roboyto, it's nice to see that drop. My 270x is in the lower slot and I have zero heat issues with it but the 7870 does have serious heat issues. Running Valley at 1250/1460 in X-Fire the 7870 hit 91C which is way hotter than the 270x around 70C max. I am going to replace the TIM and pads soon and had planned to do so. It's very good to see those temp drops.
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Very nice post Roboyto thumb.gif

I've been contemplating replacing the TIM and maybe the pads as well on my card now that temps are starting to go up. I've never done anything like this though, the thought of keeping the warranty sticker intact or messing something up has me a bit shaky..
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Just did 3 runs of Heaven 2.5 at 1200/1500/1165v with no crashes. Everything at it's highest setting at 1080p. Would this be considered stable? Yet to game at these clocks so we'll see on that front.

I tried upping the memory but that actually made my FPS worse.

Best I ever got (out of luck because I haven't been able to repeat it after numerous runs at the same clocks, all be it 1 extra average frame and 8 extra at max lol) was 48.2 average/118 max/26 min/1215 overall score (forgot to save it).

Consistent numbers I get around 47 average/110 max/24 min/1185 overall score.

Oh and max temp was 67c
Edited by Tobe404 - 4/13/14 at 8:41am
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Roboyto, it's nice to see that drop. My 270x is in the lower slot and I have zero heat issues with it but the 7870 does have serious heat issues. Running Valley at 1250/1460 in X-Fire the 7870 hit 91C which is way hotter than the 270x around 70C max. I am going to replace the TIM and pads soon and had planned to do so. It's very good to see those temp drops.

 

You should at least be able to cool that core temperature down with some good thermal paste.

 

With your cards hanging upside down as opposed to mine standing vertically, you may need something with a little more adhesion than thermal pads :thinking:.  I am going to check the card after about a week to make sure the sinks are still making good contact with the pads.

 

I'm also contemplating sticking some thermal pads between the backplate and VRMs to assist in cooling even further.  The 270X has some ventilation holes on the backplate for VRMs, but I don't have any way to get airflow over that spot on the card.

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Very nice post Roboyto thumb.gif

I've been contemplating replacing the TIM and maybe the pads as well on my card now that temps are starting to go up. I've never done anything like this though, the thought of keeping the warranty sticker intact or messing something up has me a bit shaky..

 

Thank you!

 

Do you have the ASUS 280X that is in your rig sig?  If so, ASUS shouldn't void your warranty when you remove the factory heatsink.  I had my 7870 DC2 under water, returned it to stock, sold it to a friend-of-a-friend who somehow managed to blow it up with 'a tiny overclock' :laugher:

 

I was a nice guy and RMA'd the card for him, and had no issues whatsoever.

 

If you really want to be sure that your warranty will be intact after removing the HSF, either call or e-mail ASUS and ask them.  I really don't think it will void your warranty when EK makes blocks specifically for the DC2 cards :thumb:

 

I was looking on EK's CoolingConfigurator site and there are a few versions of the 280X DC2.  Depending on which one  you have, the card could have a fairly extravagant heatsink for practically the whole PCB, covering RAM and VRMs.

 

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Just did 3 runs of Heaven 2.5 at 1200/1500/1165v with no crashes. Everything at it's highest setting at 1080p. Would this be considered stable? Yet to game at these clocks so we'll see on that front.

I tried upping the memory but that actually made my FPS worse.

Best I ever got (out of luck because I haven't been able to repeat it after numerous runs at the same clocks, all be it 1 extra average frame and 8 extra at max lol) was 48.2 average/118 max/26 min/1215 overall score (forgot to save it).

Consistent numbers I get around 47 average/110 max/24 min/1185 overall score.

Oh and max temp was 67c

 

Should be OK, but you'll have to play some games to know for sure.  As good of a test as benchmarks are, games are going to load the card differently and may not be 100% stable.  If you do run into issues, usually a very small decrease in clock speed will fix the problem.

 

Heaven/Valley can vary by 1-2 FPS even with the same exact clocks; from my experience that is normal.

 

Nice temps, should add your computer with the rig builder in your profile :thumb:

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I was reading up that 280x ram has pre-set speed timings. If I clocked 1600mhz (from 1500) it would switch timings and become stable.

When I apply 1600mhz to memory the 3d applications runs, but after 10 minutes grey screen comes on (memory error). Any BIOS mods or memory voltage mods to push my memory higher?

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I was reading up that 280x ram has pre-set speed timings. If I clocked 1600mhz (from 1500) it would switch timings and become stable.

When I apply 1600mhz to memory the 3d applications runs, but after 10 minutes grey screen comes on (memory error). Any BIOS mods or memory voltage mods to push my memory higher?

 

For Trixx make sure you have ULPS disabled and 'Force Constant Voltage' checked in the Settings Tab.  Have you increased the Power Limit? That may help.  If it's not stable at 1600, you can always try to lower the clock 5-10MHz.

 

You could try Afterburner.  Depending on if your card will allow, I believe the Aux Voltage setting in AB adjusts memory voltage.  Adding a little voltage may help.

 

It's really hit or miss with Elpida RAM.  Not nearly as many cards with Elpida RAM get good memory clocks compared to Hynix. 

 

My buddy just bought a VisionTek 280X with Elpida RAM, and his is rock solid at 1175/1700.  I was shocked considering my PowerColor Devil 270X has same RAM chips in it and I could only manage 1565 on the memory.


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