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Hey guys,
I am planning on buying a R9 280X. However I am gonna put a NZXT Kraken G10 on it for better performance so I was looking for the cheapest card with reference design. Now the cheapest reference card I could find is the Club 3D R9 280X RoyalQueen edition. But I wonder if you can get the same performance as in a RoyalKing edition. I know the main difference is the RoyalKing is factory overclocked but are there any more differences why the RoyalKing would perform better?

Thanks in advance

Club 3D just became available through Newegg in the states, so I don't know much about them.

2 big questions:

Can you remove the factory HSF without voiding the warranty?

Does the Royal King edition have upgraded components; PCB, power plugs, VRMs, etc?

Also, not sure where you are going to get a Kraken G10 presently as NZXT still hasn't shipped orders from as far back as January. I recently contacted FrozenCPU and they're expecting availability some time near the end of May. If you can find one anywhere, they will likely be severely marked up.

The 280X can do just fine with an air cooler, so my suggestion would be to get a very nice air cooled one for the time being and once the Kraken G10 are available again, make the upgrade then.

Friend of mine just bought a Visiontek R9 280X from NewEgg and it is a solid performer and very quiet even with fans at 80%; Clocked to 1185/1700. The visiontek also comes with a backplate and carries a lifetime warranty.

Remember, you get what you pay for in most cases.
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Well, I live in Belgium and I can get a g10 shipped to me for €32,42, wich is a pretty decent price IMO. I just checked the site and I can't seem to find any differences besides the factory overclock. Could be I am missing something but I guess that's the only difference. A little bit stupid they charge 50 bucks more for jus a factory overclock but that doesn't matter tongue.gif also the watercooling is partly cosmetical too, but I'm kinda new to the whole PC building thing tongue.gif so far I've been learning a lot though tongue.gif
Oh yeah and I read from another user that with Club 3D, replacing the stock cooler does not voide the warranty tongue.gif
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I'll give the flash a shot to see what happens.

Are you able to get 1400 on a single slider? Or you just move both programs to 1300 and you end up with 1.4V?

I didn't test the card under load last night after I couldn't exceed 1320 on the slider; plus I was doing BD rips and didn't want any crashes. I'll try after work and see if under load it exceeds 1.3V

+100mv in AB ( totaled to 1.296mv in gpu-z)
+125mv in Iturbo (totaled to 1.413mv in gpu-z)
So yes, i had to max out the voltage sliders of both programs seperatly. Good luck, hope it works. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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Its all extreme preset, just had to disable full screen as i have 3 monitors.

Also, 1250/1650 vs 1200/1600 is like 6 fps difference, so not worth the extra voltage.
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Well, I live in Belgium and I can get a g10 shipped to me for €32,42, wich is a pretty decent price IMO. I just checked the site and I can't seem to find any differences besides the factory overclock. Could be I am missing something but I guess that's the only difference. A little bit stupid they charge 50 bucks more for jus a factory overclock but that doesn't matter tongue.gif also the watercooling is partly cosmetical too, but I'm kinda new to the whole PC building thing tongue.gif so far I've been learning a lot though tongue.gif
Oh yeah and I read from another user that with Club 3D, replacing the stock cooler does not voide the warranty tongue.gif

If you can get the G10 easily, then I say DO IT! :-D
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Today I went to a local computer repair shop and while there I asked about why the top card in my X-Fire set up might be getting hot. I told him that at one point it hit 91c, which is hot but then he said that the card is toast and I should never go above 50c. At this point I know he was full of it because most cards these days will run a lot hotter then 50c. I told him that the card could run at 65c for hours without any damage and he thought I was nuts. My card is getting too hot but I am just going to replace the TIM and thermal pads and see if that doesn't help. I also am using Sapphire Trix now and for some reason it seems to get hotter as I would never even see 80c before so I am going back to Afterburner. It's also not very stable with Trixx.
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Today I went to a local computer repair shop and while there I asked about why the top card in my X-Fire set up might be getting hot. I told him that at one point it hit 91c, which is hot but then he said that the card is toast and I should never go above 50c. At this point I know he was full of it because most cards these days will run a lot hotter then 50c. I told him that the card could run at 65c for hours without any damage and he thought I was nuts. My card is getting too hot but I am just going to replace the TIM and thermal pads and see if that doesn't help. I also am using Sapphire Trix now and for some reason it seems to get hotter as I would never even see 80c before so I am going back to Afterburner. It's also not very stable with Trixx.

50C lachen.gif AMD/ATI cards can run at 90C all day without issues. I emailed ATI tech support back in the 5XXX days because my buddy had Xfire 5790s and the top card was doing the same yours is, 80s and saw 90 occasionally. They said it was no problem at all. It will likely reduce life expectancy, but they can do it.

My Vapor-X 4890 would hit 110 with big OC and voltages with the stock cooler.... Then I went water and it never broke 50C.

Upgrade TIM and thermal pads, and maybe switch around your fan setup. Got some pics of how airflow is running through your case?

Seems different cards do better with different tuning programs. I just use whatever works thumb.gif
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50C lachen.gif AMD/ATI cards can run at 90C all day without issues. I emailed ATI tech support back in the 5XXX days because my buddy had Xfire 5790s and the top card was doing the same yours is, 80s and saw 90 occasionally. They said it was no problem at all. It will likely reduce life expectancy, but they can do it.

My Vapor-X 4890 would hit 110 with big OC and voltages with the stock cooler.... Then I went water and it never broke 50C.

Upgrade TIM and thermal pads, and maybe switch around your fan setup. Got some pics of how airflow is running through your case?


I know, that guy didn't know what he was talking about.

I just replaced Trixx with Afterburner and ran Valley at my everyday clocks and hit 81c which is better but still 14c over the bottom card @ 67c max. I will, as I said, replace the TIM and thermal pads and see if I can get it to come down more. I also ran it at the user defined setting and I normally just ramp it up to a solid 85% fan when benching and it keeps it from heating up that much.
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I know, that guy didn't know what he was talking about.

I just replaced Trixx with Afterburner and ran Valley at my everyday clocks and hit 81c which is better but still 14c over the bottom card @ 67c max. I will, as I said, replace the TIM and thermal pads and see if I can get it to come down more. I also ran it at the user defined setting and I normally just ramp it up to a solid 85% fan when benching and it keeps it from heating up that much.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over 80C on the top card. It can be better, but it is definitely not going to blow up. If you were in the 95C Area, then I would begin to worry.

One of the most popular TIM for GPU is Gelid GC Extreme; Always drops temps on GPUs whenever I have used it. It has no cure time so you get max performance immediately, and is non-conductive so if you get it on you PCB you have nothing to worry about.
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I wouldn't lose any sleep over 80C on the top card. It can be better, but it is definitely not going to blow up. If you were in the 95C Area, then I would begin to worry.

One of the most popular TIM for GPU is Gelid GC Extreme; Always drops temps on GPUs whenever I have used it. It has no cure time so you get max performance immediately, and is non-conductive so if you get it on you PCB you have nothing to worry about.

Thanks, I was just about to ask that question.
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