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I see other use DDU with success. I just don't use it.

This is just a suggestion.

1. Download 16.7.2 manually from here . . .

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

make sure you pick the right Windows OS.

2. After download, run it like you are going to install it and you'll see this . . .



Choose Uninstall>Express.

3. Run it again but this time Install it. I normally uncheck Evolved 'cause I don't use it. Reboot.

4. Check your clocks.

EDIT: I also uncheck - Automatically download latest drivers. I always download manually.


the clocks are normal again after i rollback to 16.7.2 driver, 300/150. i guess the problem was the newest driver...i'll skip it i guess..thanks for the reply and the time to explain it to me...i appreciate it.
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@JackCY
 is absolutely correct.  You won't see any RX480 with 8+6 pin.  The chip is designed around a single 6-pin to begin with...there will be some with 6+6, but you'll likely see 8-pin as that takes up less real-estate on the PCB.

I also agree about ASUS card.  Hopefully they actually have a cooler designed specifically for the 480 and not something they're just going to slap on there that was designed for the competitions GPU; I'm speaking of DC2 290 cards in particular here...the coolers were simply taken from the 780 and stuck on there which resulted in 3/5 heatpipes being utilized.
Well there's reviews for the Strix 480 and I'd say it's fine, having 8+6 on a 480 is probably a dream anyway
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Well there's reviews for the Strix 480 and I'd say it's fine, having 8+6 on a 480 is probably a dream anyway

 

Except for the fact that they did exactly what I said they could do...they took the cooler from the 1080 and slapped it on the RX 480.

 

I quote from TPU:

 

"ASUS's thermal solution uses five heatpipes; four of these directly touch the GPU's surface. You can also see a gray thermal pad that cools the voltage regulation circuitry. This is the exact same heatsink as on the ASUS GTX 1080 STRIX Gaming."

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/4.html

 

 

 

See how they say that 'four of these (heatpipes) directly touch the GPU's surface'?  Maybe I'm :kookoo: but it looks to me like the thermal paste is technically touching four of the heatpipes, but the GPU isn't. The GPU is only effectively utilizing 2 of the heatpipes, while partially contacting the 3rd.  It appears that there may be a miniscule fraction of the corner of the GPU die which might be contacting the 4th pipe...But, from the looks of the picture to me, you're only reaping the cooling benefits of ~2.5 of the heatpipes.

 

Just like the 290/780 scenario I mentioned.  If they could have altered it to better suit the chip, then performance  likely could have been better...especially in the noise department when the MSI Gaming is 7dB quieter, while only running 5C hotter, with only 2 fans! https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/22.html

 

I looked at another review that altered the temperature target to 75C and it still doesn't best the MSI: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/asus-rx-480-strix-gaming-oc-aura-rgb-8192mb/27/

 

Also louder than MSI here:  http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/94945-asus-rog-strix-radeon-rx-480-oc/?page=13

 

 

Their custom PCB doesn't appear to have given additional OC headroom; at least with Watt Man.  Maybe we will see more out of the cards once end users have them in their hands and can use better OC software...TPU could have gotten a poor sample.

 

The MSI looks like the better card to me currently...but we will see once there is more information from end users.

 


 

I highly doubt we will see an 8+6.  I can't envision a tangible benefit to doing this. 

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Technically it touches 4 but cooling wise only 2 have any significant contact. Obviously the dies are so small getting more pipes to touch is impossible. This goes for any small die being cooled with many heatpipes.
ASUS, MSI, most of them reuse coolers from previously released cards especially NV cards. MSI reuses 1060 cooler but at least it works it seems.
ASUS is not good at cooling GPUs, nor with bloody RMAs. I'm still waiting for my refund they've said they will give. Have to again start emailing maybe even writing to ASUS Taiwan again to kick their bum because it has been a week since the card arrived back to them.
post #9625 of 9745
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Technically it touches 4 but cooling wise only 2 have any significant contact. Obviously the dies are so small getting more pipes to touch is impossible. This goes for any small die being cooled with many heatpipes.
ASUS, MSI, most of them reuse coolers from previously released cards especially NV cards. MSI reuses 1060 cooler but at least it works it seems.
ASUS is not good at cooling GPUs, nor with bloody RMAs. I'm still waiting for my refund they've said they will give. Have to again start emailing maybe even writing to ASUS Taiwan again to kick their bum because it has been a week since the card arrived back to them.

The GTX 1080 has better thermals/acoustics with similar heatpipe contact. This is why it is pure rubbish they couldn't do something to customize the cooler for the card.

A large copper shim/plate to help transfer heat to the other pipes that aren't in direct contact would be a pretty simple fix..like MSI has done in the past.



I wish you the best of luck with ASUS RMA, but from personal experience you're more likely to be insulted than helped.
Edited by Roboyto - 8/8/16 at 10:48am
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hello 280x owners,
been testing full screen apps for a while now, but I cant get my pair in crossfire to clock up to the stated 1070mhz that they are supposed to do.mad.gif
this is very annoying as I bought the pair to replace a single because they had a higher standard clock.mad.gif yes, I have three 280x and one is doing the right thing of being 950mhz.
has anyone actually got the card to the stated 1070mhz clock on the box please?...
using a sensor like gpu-z or something, as I found that others lie about the clock (benchmarking software).
has any one got a pair in crossfire to the stated 1070mhz clock on the box please?...
or is it due to crossfire?
Edited by MrPerforations - 8/11/16 at 9:21am
    
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hello 280x owners,
been testing full screen apps for a while now, but I cant get my pair in crossfire to clock up to the stated 1070mhz that they are supposed to do.mad.gif
this is very annoying as I bought the pair to replace a single because they had a higher standard clock.mad.gif yes, I have three 280x and one is doing the right thing of being 950mhz.
has anyone actually got the card to the stated 1070mhz clock on the box please?...
using a sensor like gpu-z or something, as I found that others lie about the clock (benchmarking software).
has any one got a pair in crossfire to the stated 1070mhz clock on the box please?...
or is it due to crossfire?

This usually happens with all AMD cards depending on the game. It can also be that whatever software you are using to monitor clocks is reporting them incorrectly.

Make sure you are using a DirectX11 game, the newer the better. Also let us know what monitoring software you are using.

Basically, in older games (DX9) or in less demanding games, your cards might not hit the rated clock speed because they don't need to to hit 60 fps (or whatever the refresh rate of your monitor is).
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hello 280x owners,
been testing full screen apps for a while now, but I cant get my pair in crossfire to clock up to the stated 1070mhz that they are supposed to do.mad.gif
this is very annoying as I bought the pair to replace a single because they had a higher standard clock.mad.gif yes, I have three 280x and one is doing the right thing of being 950mhz.
has anyone actually got the card to the stated 1070mhz clock on the box please?...
using a sensor like gpu-z or something, as I found that others lie about the clock (benchmarking software).
has any one got a pair in crossfire to the stated 1070mhz clock on the box please?...
or is it due to crossfire?

if you have xfire they will all set themselves to the lowest clock speed..

you will probably want to set that one card at 950 to 1070 in the control panel.
 
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The GTX 1080 has better thermals/acoustics with similar heatpipe contact. This is why it is pure rubbish they couldn't do something to customize the cooler for the card.

A large copper shim/plate to help transfer heat to the other pipes that aren't in direct contact would be a pretty simple fix..like MSI has done in the past.



I wish you the best of luck with ASUS RMA, but from personal experience you're more likely to be insulted than helped.
The plates don't help much if at all I think, the heatpipes have contact with each other so there shouldn't be a need for a plate. But it shouldn't hurt much if on is used.

ASUS actually gets better when it comes to communication when you step on them via ASUS Taiwan, sure the stuff they send back in the RMA is unusable but otherwise they do try and communicate and try to speed it up.
Right now the stupid retailer is being the slow one and while they complicate things by trying to do stuff by the book when it comes to me the customer (down the supply chain) they do not do stuff by the book when it comes to their distributor and ASUS (up the supply chain).

If ASUS could pay me back directly I would have already had my money back but it's been a week since the retailer has the card and they still didn't get it to ASUS yet so ASUS can't start the lengthy refund process because they didn't get the gorram card back yet.

In some ways the EU warranty process is OK but overall it is unnecessarily complicated and if there are 10 distributors/resellers then everything should go through all 10 of them if done by the book. I have 3 in my case that I know about and I already jumped 1 to make the whole thing shorter, faster, so did the shop try the same but now they shouldn't with the refund and they were still trying to from what ASUS told me...

While ASUS can't properly deal with warranties of EOL products or ship cards internally without damaging them when you step on their toes via ASUS customer service Taiwan HQ they do try to resolve it, call, apologize for this and that, etc.
Unfortunately I don't have any such trick for the retailer. I knew an owner of one of the big computer shops here decades ago when the shop was small but that's a different shop.
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The plates don't help much if at all I think, the heatpipes have contact with each other so there shouldn't be a need for a plate. But it shouldn't hurt much if on is used.
 

 

I swear sometimes you just type things for the sake of typing things.  

 

I think the plate actually does make make a difference especially with the RX 480. 

 

MSI is using a smaller cooler with less fans and manages a card that is 8dB quieter, that's a lot, while only sacrificing 5C in thermals.  

 

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8GB Corsair LPX 3200 Western Digital Black 6TB Crucial M500 240Gb Intel 530 240GB 
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OCZ Vertex 3 128GB XSPC Raystorm XSPC EX240 XSPC EX240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance Compression Fittings Feser Silver Tubing Corsair SP120 High Performance x4 XSPC Dual 5.25" Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Swiftech MCP-655 Yate Loon 20mm Medium Speed x2 Windows 10 Pro LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS 
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