Originally Posted by wot
Originally Posted by tpi2007
Wait a minute, so now Microsoft is bullying people into turning on Secure Boot in the BIOS otherwise you're greeted with a watermark you can't get rid of unless you get less security than Windows 7 by having to completely disable UAC ?
Or if you turn secure boot off completely (I'm assuming there might be a problem where it's configured to be on in one place and off in another) the watermark will disappear ?
With secure boot on or off in uefi (msi z87) watermark stays and this was the only way to remove it. I have also never had UAC enabled. First thing i do after a fresh install is disable the thing.
Thanks for the info. Man, that is completely unacceptable. Microsoft is flexing its monopoly muscles to annoy users. If people don't want to have secure boot enabled because they want to load their own Linux distributions, they should have a way to disable that watermark (without completely disabling UAC). That is akin to having that watermark on the desktop when Windows hasn't been activated within the required time.
Originally Posted by steven88
Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric
Couldn't you just upgrade to 8.1 normally and once its up and running, then select clean install from general settings? That was my plan for tonight...
It doesn't matter, because the key won't activate. For folks who own Windows 8 and would like to use 8.1.....you would have to install Windows 8 first, then update to 8.1....no way to fresh install 8.1 using an 8 key.
When will Microsoft learn?
I bet a lot of people like me have Windows 8 licenses that have never been installed and could now want to give 8.1 a try by installing from a Windows 8.1 fulll OS ISO.
I'm not going to go through the mess of installing 8, possibly all the security patches in between (any word on whether 8.1 works like a Service Pack in that regard ? Does it include all previously released security patches ?), all the while being vulnerable to security exploits from the past year while downloading the update, and then having to download and install the 8.1 update.
This is not the proper way to do things Microsoft.
Originally Posted by dstoler
I got screwed awhile back when I upgraded to Windows 8 from Win 7 (only paid $14 for it with tons of coupons found on OCN) and was running it for a year without any hitches. I moved to a different city and needed to reinstall Windows 8 due to an unbelievable virus that even anti rootkit wouldn't destroy. I had no backups because the virus was blocking everything. When I tried to re-download Windows 8 Pro with my key that Microsoft mailed to me, it said invalid. I did some research and came to discover that it was solely an upgrade product key and I needed to re-install my previous Windows 7, which I no longer had. Long story short, I am a Linux user 90% of the time now, Mint FTW!
One thing I haven't seen anybody explain yet is how the different licenses come together. Windows 8 was sold only in upgrade format at retail, whereas Windows 8.1 is being sold as the full product.If
a full Windows 8.1 ISO is made available, will it carry the same upgrade license or the full license ?
Mint is pretty good. Edited by tpi2007 - 10/17/13 at 6:28pm