Originally Posted by Kylepdalton
I'd really suggest taking a look at CEIP (Customer Experience Improvement Program) in Windows 7. Unless you turned it off it does the exact same thing as SmartScreen and the privacy settings in Windows 8.
In fact go do a little reading, this has occurred in every Windows edition, but it seems everyone should know that because they tell you upfront about it. Right? No they don't, just like Windows 8. It seems as though you didn't know so it might be a good idea to figure it out and turn it off. You should also read up on WAT (Windows Activation Technologies) cause it does the same. Oh don't forget to disable SpyNet too cause... well you should be getting the picture by now.
You also seem to be uninformed how AV's collect data as well. They do it the same way, and for a little shock and horror, they sale or give to third parties.
Don't forget information Steam and Origin collects and sends unless you opt out as well. Surely everyone knows to opt out of nearly every single application they install that has a way of self updating.
To clear up some information, you can certainly go offline and not be blocked from starting an app (and it . The reason this had to be done is due to the fact Microsoft accepts a certain amount of liability with anything in the appstore. Microsoft is not a software company in the strictest sense so taking care of the appstore is somewhat new so they made it just like every other appstore. If it ends up on your PC because it came from the appstore guess who's fault it is.
I don't have to defend Microsoft at all, I don't think it is necessary for me but the majority of users it is.
As for installing 8.1 I don't see too big of a problem doing a clean install. You insert your disk and install Windows 8 then you install updates. There are 8.1 ISOs out there but they aren't downloadable by everyone (legally at least). At any rate it isn't a drastic change to just let Windows update for you after an install. The reason at the moment it is handled this way due to how license keys are handled. I think it is daft myself but I really don't see how this is really that difficult. I managed to install 8.1 without using my Microsoft account and doing any searching on how to do it. I think the ISO should be available of course as it makes life easier.
You have no idea how CEIP works or what it is for in Windows 7 to say it does the exact same thing as Smartscreen in Windows 8. Instead of telling others to go do a little reading, I think that advice applies to you.
And yes, I have it disabled. Apparently Microsoft thinks it can just read telemetry data and draw their own conclusions to meet their objectives without talking to customers and trying to know what they want and how they feel, so I just turned it off, as Windows 8 proved to me that they are leveraging it in the wrong way. If a Formula 1 engineer tunes the car by solely looking at the telemetry data and doesn't talk with the driver, I can tell you that team won't work very well, and they certainly won't win championships.
And yet you continue to excuse them for their behaviour and even bring the tinfoil hattery demagogic argument into play, congratulations. They are not informing customers of the full meaning of what each option does in terms of privacy. They did the same thing before ? Other companies do it too ? So what ? When has that become an excuse ?
Oh, and I seem to be uninformed of how AV's collect data as well ? How nice, do you know the privacy statement and configuration options of every single AV maker and program out there or just that one from AVG ? Do you ? I know exactly what I'm sharing with the AV maker of my software because I was properly informed during setup, which is something Microsoft isn't doing with the Windows 8.1 setup.
As to Steam and Origin, I don't even know why you're using that emoticon, it doesn't do you any favours, really. So what, if the majority of people don't read EULAS and the subsequent updates and usually just click OK, people like me aren't allowed to protest when something isn't right just because of the dismal status quo
regarding consumer's awareness to certain problems ? Your logic underlines everything that is wrong with consumer rights.
Oh, and in case you don't know, the Hardware Survey in Steam is opt-in
, not opt-out; in Origin it's mandatory. It's a whole different mindset when it comes to customer relations and respecting people's privacy and the right to make a decision.
As to installing Windows 8.1, it's a mess of a procedure, period, you are essentially downloading the OS all over again (it's 3.6 GB, that is the size of Windows 8's .ISO), you're losing time and money and even susceptible to all the security exploits from the past 12 months while the update(s) are being downloaded and installed.Edited by tpi2007 - 10/19/13 at 8:44pm