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should i get a G400 or G400s - FINAL UPDATE: 3 x g400s defective in a row, , asked for refund

post #1 of 24
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I can get the G400 or the G400s for a similar price..

Have had the mx510 for several years now, a couple of the extra buttons are starting to miss clicks( happens just every now and thenΰ‘‰ tough), also there is this lingering bug on setpoint that keeps scrolling assigned to the 6 & 7 buttons even if you assign something else (i use volume - & + on those). I'm on win 8 x64 btw, so no polling usb patch


Is it worth getting the newer g400s over the g400? or has there been found something negative about it?
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post #2 of 24
I'm not sure if the cable issue is still present in the G400S, if not then I'd pick one of those up over the original.
Only negative things I've heard about the G400S over the G400 is that the buttons feel a little bit "mushy" and that the design on the shell is ugly, haven't heard anything about sensor or cable issues.
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I believe the CPI has been slightly bumped as well (800/2400 vs 850/2500)? Hopefully someone else can confirm
    
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post #4 of 24
G400 goes up to 3600dpi while the S goes up to 4000dpi if that's important to you.
Both mice share the same dpi steps without drivers except the third step which is 1800 on the original G400 and 2000 on the G400S, they also run 1000hz polling rate out of the box without drivers.
post #5 of 24
Similar price? I'd just get the s
post #6 of 24
I like the looks and coating of the original G400 more, but other than that they are the same mouse unless you prefer a certain sensitivity for the top DPI steps as mentioned above.
post #7 of 24
Even a used G400 is a million times better than the G400s. In fact, I'll sell you my personal G400. smile.gif
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nabbed it, i guess my tipping point was getting the newer one so maybe it will have more years of driver support.

initial impressions:

-button clicking including sound , and weight feel very similar to mx510,
-mouse 3 scrolling 'taps' feel less pronounced, so that will require me getting use to that. -On the other hand it's also much silent, which i like.
-mouse surface feels warmer, probably due to matte finish vs mx510 glossy, at first glance i like more the glossy and colder one, let's see what i think in a couple of weeks

i'm now fiddling with the mouse config, installation had no issues.


-Tried to match the speed i used daily on the mx510, it was near 2000dpi. Of course with the mx510 the mouse cursor jumped pixels like crazy, now with the g400s this issue has been resolved so that's a win. I will probably leave 2000dpi at all times, because i will use the buttons 6&7 on volume Maybe if there was a way to change dpi from the keyboard i could be be able to change it on the fly from there...
-Poll rate now works above the mx510 125hz (win8), i left it at 500hz which was defaulted to.


-Put on the button setup i have been using for ages, alt+ tab seems to work perfect, but volume up and down works only by tapping the buttons, if i press and hold it just goes two points up or down, and pressing the button eg: 10 times to go from 70 to 50 is a chore, so that's gonna be a problem. Still not sure how am i gonna fix it, maybe with autohotkey but i'll have to find some spare key combinations, since i don't think this new logitech software has something like Uber Options which let me assing eg: F13 (which i used on setpoint).


-I also got used to those teflon 'gliders' or 'skaters', while the gliders of the g400s are good, those teflon gliders make sliding mice even more a pleasure, so i'll have to get one for those big sliders of the g400s. Or maybe i can just use all those spare ones i had left from the mx510, including the border..


so the tasks ahead:
-fix volume buttons
-put teflon sliders
-look out for that broken cable connection prevention thing and do it.

update: looks like the logitech software has some cool macro recording feature, with that i was able to record the keyboards volume actions, and now the volume holding works perfect
Edited by webtax - 10/8/13 at 9:42pm
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post #9 of 24
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update 2: something is wrong...

the three extra buttons near the scroll wheel need like certain force push to register, if i press any of the buttons firmly, they all register, but if i press just to make the "click":

-button in front of scroll wheel : only registers 2 times out of 10
-button after scroll wheel: about 3 times out of 10
-dpi default button: 8 out of 10

now i wondered if this was me maybe imagining things.. so i plugged the mx510 i did the same test, result:10/10 10/10 10/10
gd*mn why can't this things work fine out of the box mad.gif
Edited by webtax - 10/8/13 at 11:12pm
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post #10 of 24
You should never ever ever ever use the Logitech mouse software unless you want every setting you use to be interpolated.
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