Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles › [VC] AMD Radeon R9 290X and R9 290 European pricing unveiled
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[VC] AMD Radeon R9 290X and R9 290 European pricing unveiled - Page 18

post #171 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperOct View Post

Nvidia bases their GPU prices on consumer demands and performance. AMD bases it's GPU prices on performance. Enough high-end GPU consumers base their buying decisions on e-peen and obsession. hence we get the following historical formula (more or less):

1) Nvidia leads with prices in new territory with the fastest new GPU to test consumer emotional drive. Hence Titan<-> .... 780<->
2) AMD follows by pricing based on performance. Hence: (580<->6970, 7970<->580, 780<->290x).

Simple formula but there are anomalies/exceptions. Here are some. Nvidia had a delayed/intentional response with the 680 so you get 7970<->680. It was supposed to be 7970<->Titan and/or 7970<->780. Anytime AMD has released new GPUs first, the prices have been based on performance comparisons with Nvidia's previous generation instead of placing it in a new territory. see 5870 and 7970. Hence, they follow.

If anyone here thinks that all the factors that go into pricing the manufacturing of the Titan add up to $900 (for example) then you are out of your mind or flat out stupid. I am willing to bet it is no more than $300 AT BEST; and even if it is $500 (highly doubt it but lets go into the ridiculous zone) then you are still being raped by an extra $500. You can buy a computer at $550 or build your own. You can buy a console, and so on.

The top GPU should be costing no more than $400-450 and they still make a decent profit. The weak link that has contributed to prices going up is demand. That is, YOU, the consumer. Not all of YOU. But enough of YOU. So don't come here, being a Titan/780 owner and complain about prices. don't say these prices aren't a good deal. They are a good deal because they are priced accordingly with the competing product. they are priced according to your buying habits. They are priced like this because of you. Stop the nonsense. The only people here who deserve to complain about prices are people who did not buy into the Titan/780 AND they should complain about both manufactures, not just one.

There is no room for favoritism here. You are the consumer. That's the only group you belong to no matter how much you want to dilude yourself into thinking you are part of a select group that is partner with any of these companies. Joining a "GPU owners thread" won't make you so. Defending either company with flawed arguments won't make you so. Buying a particular GPU won't make you so. All it does is make you a consumer. That's all you are. that's all you'll ever be unless you get a job with them. So, defend yourselves, defend objectivity, inform yourselves. I guaranteed you'll have a better experience.

Best post in this thread. But it is a waste of time, they will complain yet do it again anyways
post #172 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by LancerVI View Post

I'll banter with ya.

Point is. I've been in this hobby longer than most here. I generally always buy a flagship video card. I've never had to spend more than $600 to do it. That is no longer the case. I will not cross that line for a SINGLE component.

$600 today doesn't buy you what $600 would 5 years ago in mostly anything else either.
Upstairs Rig
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k Asus Maximus VI Hero evga 1080 Ti with Hybrid mod Corsair Vengeance Pro 2133 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500gb WD Caviar Black Corsair h100i GTX Windows 8.1 64bit 
MonitorPowerCase
xb280hk EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
  hide details  
Reply
Upstairs Rig
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k Asus Maximus VI Hero evga 1080 Ti with Hybrid mod Corsair Vengeance Pro 2133 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 500gb WD Caviar Black Corsair h100i GTX Windows 8.1 64bit 
MonitorPowerCase
xb280hk EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
  hide details  
Reply
post #173 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supranium View Post

Looks to me that at least EU prices are very logical.
290 being at same price as 780. Im expecting perfomance of those cards to be very similar as well.
290x being a lot cheaper than Titan but still keeping its premium price over the 290.

In conclusion i see 290 and gtx780 being attractive and 290x not so much.
HD7990 with 10.8beta drivers and its 500eur price tag looks like a steal to me. Thats why mine is on the way right now.
My ITX rig will be a monster performer. biggrin.gif Upgrading from HD7850.

the 3GB on the 780 should last a couple more years. from a titan owner, though, they look at it as the next 6 mos. maybe.
Second Intel Rig
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2700 4.5/ 1.28 77 290 (2) 16 / 1866 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1000 360/240 10 64 28 2160 
PowerCase
850 540 
  hide details  
Reply
Second Intel Rig
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2700 4.5/ 1.28 77 290 (2) 16 / 1866 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1000 360/240 10 64 28 2160 
PowerCase
850 540 
  hide details  
Reply
post #174 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

Ouch. That means the $699/730 price will probably be what the USA ends up with, since euros=>dollars ends up with ~881 EUR.

Probably means the R9 290 = ~$599 too.

Its possible however in the past I saw exact same price in dollars and euros for the same product... I just wonder why are people accepting such thing.
post #175 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Offler View Post

Its possible however in the past I saw exact same price in dollars and euros for the same product... I just wonder why are people accepting such thing.
Social security is a big culprit, we pay for the weak. (and elderly)
post #176 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

For God's sake does nobody remember the 8800 Ultra? These prices are simply nothing new...

I almost paid $1000 for a 6800 ultra in bestbuy. I was really gonna do it.
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770K @ 4.7ghz Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H EVGA GTX 980TI ACX 2.0  8GB G.Skill Trident X 2400 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 830 SSD 128GB 3TB Toshiba  3TB Toshiba Custom Water 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Window 7 Ultimate 64 bit HP 23xi Corsair HX750i Phanteks Enthoo Luxe 
Mouse
Logitech G600 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770K @ 4.7ghz Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H EVGA GTX 980TI ACX 2.0  8GB G.Skill Trident X 2400 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 830 SSD 128GB 3TB Toshiba  3TB Toshiba Custom Water 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Window 7 Ultimate 64 bit HP 23xi Corsair HX750i Phanteks Enthoo Luxe 
Mouse
Logitech G600 
  hide details  
Reply
post #177 of 388
Bought the 8800 ultra @ release, best card i ever had, lasted a very long time thumb.gif

I had some expensive cards but after the 8800 ultra there really was no card that gave such a big boost.

Voodoo 2 12mb x 2
TNT 2 Ultra
Geforce 256 DDR
Geforce 2 Ultra
Geforce 3 TI 500
Radeon 9700 pro

Then the 8800 ultra, i had it in my pc till last year and i bought an 7850 2gig. Now i really hope AMD pull of a great card with the 290x.
Edited by Cyclonic - 10/9/13 at 7:08am
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700k @ 4.7ghz Asus Republic Of Gamers Z170 MAXIMUS VIII HERO MSI GTX 1080 G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB @ 4000mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 850 Evo 500gb Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 pro LG 34UM95-P + Dell U2412M 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G19 Corsair AX 750 Coolermaster Stryker Razer Mamba 
Mouse Pad
Razer Destructor 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700k @ 4.7ghz Asus Republic Of Gamers Z170 MAXIMUS VIII HERO MSI GTX 1080 G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB @ 4000mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 850 Evo 500gb Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 pro LG 34UM95-P + Dell U2412M 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G19 Corsair AX 750 Coolermaster Stryker Razer Mamba 
Mouse Pad
Razer Destructor 
  hide details  
Reply
post #178 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

According to Overclock.co.uk the 290 is just a bit slower than the 780.

Well, it really depends in what game and by how much. 1 game where the gap is ~12% makes it to average value, thus affecting it by a lot.

Nvidia will slash pricing on 780s ,allowing 290x to occupy this spot. It is not confirmed yet though, so I am with 600$.

290X will destroy Titan on air, which is fine.
post #179 of 388
649 Euros = £550 (British pound sterling) = same price as the GTX 780 on launch, so it's fine....? or is it!
post #180 of 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameschisholm View Post

649 Euros = £550 (British pound sterling) = same price as the GTX 780 on launch, so it's fine....? or is it!

but the 280x gaming is around £250 / 294 euro's not the 279 the slide says so more like £550-570
I should game.
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3820 rampage 4 extreme GTX 970 Gskill Ripjawz 2133mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Raid 0 4x120 840 evo  EK Supremacy CSQ EK FB Kit RE4 LE CSQ MB block windows 7 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseOther
samsung D6530 40" Corsair RM Series 1000W corsair 750d 9 x 120mm rad 
Other
other loop parts 
  hide details  
Reply
I should game.
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3820 rampage 4 extreme GTX 970 Gskill Ripjawz 2133mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Raid 0 4x120 840 evo  EK Supremacy CSQ EK FB Kit RE4 LE CSQ MB block windows 7 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseOther
samsung D6530 40" Corsair RM Series 1000W corsair 750d 9 x 120mm rad 
Other
other loop parts 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles › [VC] AMD Radeon R9 290X and R9 290 European pricing unveiled