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Hi guys,

I'm currently three weeks into my new job which involves a combination of design and development work. Right now I'm using my Lenovo Edge E525 for work which has an AMD A8-3500M and 4GB RAM (3.5GB after IGP). Sadly, it's taken two years of bashing at school and is starting to show it's age a bit considering it wasn't ever a fast machine to start with. Running VS2012, Photoshop, Firefox and several office programs seems to cripple it sadly.

So, I started looking at laptops but the prices are a little extreme and since I don't need the portability (The vast majority of our work is cloud based) I decided to spec up a desktop alternative.

Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.30GHz
// Some 1150 board (tbc)
GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz
nVidia GeForce G630 2048MB
Samsung 250GB 840 Evo SSD
450W XFX Pro Core Edition
PSU

You may have noticed that a case is missing, this is intentional since I'll probably just reuse my old Coolermaster CM-690 II.

The above however comes to £520, or £415 excluding VAT. Now, a laptop with an i7 Quad, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD is going to set me back easily double that and possibly more.

Just a few questions though. For starters, the motherboard. It's been a little while since I've really been into motherboard manufacturers, are any a safe bet, or perhaps more importantly, are any best to avoid? Another consideration is the best chipset to look for (H81/B85/H87/Z87) in terms of value for money. Don't need SLI but wouldn't mind something reliable either.

Secondly, I'm guessing most 1150 boards will support the Xeon processor? No reason for them not to, but probably worth double checking and also part of the motherboard selection.

 

Finally, what is the general consensus on graphics? Don't need much performance but being able to drive dual high-resolution monitors would be particularly useful. G630 seemed suitable but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks for your help as always.

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Hey man,

Well I know it's for work, however I don't think a Xeon is the way to go, especially since the one you linked is pretty poor. You'd get more for your cash going with a 4770k and a GA-Z87X-D3H with 8GB of memory, hell with prices the way they are I'd consider a 16Gb setup.

Also, you can still give it a modest overclock of 4.4Ghz and it will still outperform that Xeon. The main reasons for Xeon's is the low power, low heat and ECC support. Oh and multi-processor motherbaords.

Comps
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Secondly, I'm guessing most 1150 boards will support the Xeon processor? No reason for them not to, but probably worth double checking and also part of the motherboard selection.

No the Xeon you listed is a LGA1155 socket it will not work in a LGA1150 motherboard. The sockets must be the same then check the motherboard manufacture's website to ensure compatibility with he CPU you want to use.

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Secondly, I'm guessing most 1150 boards will support the Xeon processor? No reason for them not to, but probably worth double checking and also part of the motherboard selection.

No the Xeon you listed is a LGA1155 socket it will not work in a LGA1150 motherboard. The sockets must be the same then check the motherboard manufacture's website to ensure compatibility with he CPU you want to use.

 

Try again. The E3-1230 V3 is an 1150 socket processor. The V2 is for 1155.

 

@compuman

 

That Xeon isn't exactly poor? It's just an i7-4770 without an IGP and a slightly slower clock (3.30GHz vs. 3.40GHz).

 

They are otherwise identical. Plus the Xeon is £180 while the i7 4770K is £245 - not even close in price really.

 

Plus buying a Z68 board for overclocking is going to put the price up a fair bit while also sacrificing stability and power consumption.


Edited by Toonshorty - 10/9/13 at 4:38am
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Poor for a xeon is what I mean, there are much better ones out there if you're going down that road.

A board can be had for £120, so not really breaking the bank, I still think that with the extra power the 4770k will be using it'll give him more performance.
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Poor for a xeon is what I mean, there are much better ones out there if you're going down that road.

A board can be had for £120, so not really breaking the bank, I still think that with the extra power the 4770k will be using it'll give him more performance.

 

I don't see where this 'extra power' is coming from unless you're overclocking.

 

Also, the better Xeons are significantly more expensive. I don't have a huge budget here (Probably £450 +  VAT) so I don't think 4770K is ideal either.

 

It's looking likely to be E3-1230 V3 vs i5 4670K vs FX-8320 really.

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