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Thanks ponti, tough choice between the 7990 at 550 dollars and the new 290x :S

I vote 290x, you may get a little less frames at times, but you wont have to deal with the numerous crossfire issues thumb.gif
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buy 2nd hand 2600k OC to 4.6 = future proof
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I vote 290x, you may get a little less frames at times, but you wont have to deal with the numerous crossfire issues thumb.gif

Yeah coz then I can trifire later (if i can afford it lol) then It will be > dual 7990

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buy 2nd hand 2600k OC to 4.6 = future proof

No thanks bro, I wont buy intel again, I prefer AMD!
post #24 of 28
Important considerations, in no particular order:

#1 - If you do purchase the 9590, you should absolutely go with a minimum of a top end All In One Liquid Cooling System. This chip is set to 1.525V by default, and the top Air Coolers start to struggle to dissipate heat when above 1.4V when all 8 Cores are under 100% Load (most notably when calculations are being performed with the on die memory cache: Prime 95 Small FFT's, and Large In Place FFT's).

#2 - Very few Motherboards support the 9590: only three are listed by AMD, which includes the ASUS CH V Formula Z. Another poster on a different thread stated that ASUS has the 9590 listed as supported by the Sabretooth Rev 2.0. IIRC, the top Gigabyte and Asrock 990FX boards were the other two that AMD had mentioned. Then read the user reviews on Newegg and elsewhere: you will be looking for the most stable VRM's. I'm using the CH V Formula Z myself.

#3 - Choose your memory sticks carefully. Despite the motherboards mentioned in # 2 having listed support for higher speeds, AMD states that the 9590 will only support up to 1866MHz. Depending on the Motherboard and your particular CPU, sometimes higher speeds will limit you to only two sticks of RAM. I'm using 4 of the Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB sticks (1866MHz) with no issues on the aforementioned CH V Formula Z.

#4 - Take the overclocking advice with a grain of salt: not every 8350 is capable of being overclocked to 5GHz, just because others have hit it. I was able to get a 10% OC (4.4 GHz) out of my 8350 before being limited by Cores 5 & 8. Purchasing the 9590 after the price dropped, and pairing it with a Corsair H80i cooler, granted me an instantaneous increase of 600MHz biggrin.gif Shopping for CPU's is a bit like buying a pack of trading cards: sometimes you get the run of the mill, and sometimes you get the pick of the litter wink.gif

#5 - Buy a high quality Power Supply: at least 80 Plus Gold Certified with 2 separate 12V rails that have a high current rating. Anything less and you will be running into stability issues when using the 9590, let alone with either set up of the graphics cards you've been mentioning.


That's my two cents - good luck, and most of all, enjoy!
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agreed with ^, you should go with swiftech or even consider a WC system. I would if i had the cash
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Important considerations, in no particular order:

#1 - If you do purchase the 9590, you should absolutely go with a minimum of a top end All In One Liquid Cooling System. This chip is set to 1.525V by default, and the top Air Coolers start to struggle to dissipate heat when above 1.4V when all 8 Cores are under 100% Load (most notably when calculations are being performed with the on die memory cache: Prime 95 Small FFT's, and Large In Place FFT's).

#2 - Very few Motherboards support the 9590: only three are listed by AMD, which includes the ASUS CH V Formula Z. Another poster on a different thread stated that ASUS has the 9590 listed as supported by the Sabretooth Rev 2.0. IIRC, the top Gigabyte and Asrock 990FX boards were the other two that AMD had mentioned. Then read the user reviews on Newegg and elsewhere: you will be looking for the most stable VRM's. I'm using the CH V Formula Z myself.

#3 - Choose your memory sticks carefully. Despite the motherboards mentioned in # 2 having listed support for higher speeds, AMD states that the 9590 will only support up to 1866MHz. Depending on the Motherboard and your particular CPU, sometimes higher speeds will limit you to only two sticks of RAM. I'm using 4 of the Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB sticks (1866MHz) with no issues on the aforementioned CH V Formula Z.

#4 - Take the overclocking advice with a grain of salt: not every 8350 is capable of being overclocked to 5GHz, just because others have hit it. I was able to get a 10% OC (4.4 GHz) out of my 8350 before being limited by Cores 5 & 8. Purchasing the 9590 after the price dropped, and pairing it with a Corsair H80i cooler, granted me an instantaneous increase of 600MHz biggrin.gif Shopping for CPU's is a bit like buying a pack of trading cards: sometimes you get the run of the mill, and sometimes you get the pick of the litter wink.gif

#5 - Buy a high quality Power Supply: at least 80 Plus Gold Certified with 2 separate 12V rails that have a high current rating. Anything less and you will be running into stability issues when using the 9590, let alone with either set up of the graphics cards you've been mentioning.


That's my two cents - good luck, and most of all, enjoy!

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agreed with ^, you should go with swiftech or even consider a WC system. I would if i had the cash

dudes that is awesome advice. thank you so mucj wink.gif
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by Karameikos View Post

Important considerations, in no particular order:

#1 - If you do purchase the 9590, you should absolutely go with a minimum of a top end All In One Liquid Cooling System. This chip is set to 1.525V by default, and the top Air Coolers start to struggle to dissipate heat when above 1.4V when all 8 Cores are under 100% Load (most notably when calculations are being performed with the on die memory cache: Prime 95 Small FFT's, and Large In Place FFT's).

#2 - Very few Motherboards support the 9590: only three are listed by AMD, which includes the ASUS CH V Formula Z. Another poster on a different thread stated that ASUS has the 9590 listed as supported by the Sabretooth Rev 2.0. IIRC, the top Gigabyte and Asrock 990FX boards were the other two that AMD had mentioned. Then read the user reviews on Newegg and elsewhere: you will be looking for the most stable VRM's. I'm using the CH V Formula Z myself.

#3 - Choose your memory sticks carefully. Despite the motherboards mentioned in # 2 having listed support for higher speeds, AMD states that the 9590 will only support up to 1866MHz. Depending on the Motherboard and your particular CPU, sometimes higher speeds will limit you to only two sticks of RAM. I'm using 4 of the Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB sticks (1866MHz) with no issues on the aforementioned CH V Formula Z.

#4 - Take the overclocking advice with a grain of salt: not every 8350 is capable of being overclocked to 5GHz, just because others have hit it. I was able to get a 10% OC (4.4 GHz) out of my 8350 before being limited by Cores 5 & 8. Purchasing the 9590 after the price dropped, and pairing it with a Corsair H80i cooler, granted me an instantaneous increase of 600MHz biggrin.gif Shopping for CPU's is a bit like buying a pack of trading cards: sometimes you get the run of the mill, and sometimes you get the pick of the litter wink.gif

#5 - Buy a high quality Power Supply: at least 80 Plus Gold Certified with 2 separate 12V rails that have a high current rating. Anything less and you will be running into stability issues when using the 9590, let alone with either set up of the graphics cards you've been mentioning.

That's my two cents - good luck, and most of all, enjoy!
#1 - That is funny. I had a NH-D14 with 2 AP-15 and I could hit 4.7ghz with 1.488v with a FX-8320 and it was around 55c.
#2- Very true.
#3- Asus and Giga-byte can handle 4 stick of 1866+. AsRock can't.
#4- This very true.
#5 - I have no problems hitting 4.9ghz with an Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W and it is Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE.
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# 1 - I have not owned NH-D14, but I do have two of the "top rated" from several cooling review websites (Zalman 9900 MAX and a Thermax Eclipse II with A 3,000 rpm pull Scythe Ultra-Kaze). The NH--D14 has great ratings in those same charts, but not significantly different than the two HSF's I have. That said, charts need to be taken with a grain of salt as well: my H80i is totally killing the 9900 MAX, and the charts showed it as only 6C better with both fans in a push / pull running max speed.

# 5 - "at least" was more in reference to the 2 separate 12 V rails with plenty of current, however, I do prefer 80 Plus Gold because the more efficiency, the less the heat.

As far as getting an extra 1.2 GHz out of your 8320, great job and lucky you thumb.gif I have seven separate AMD CPU's from the last 6 years, and have never gotten more than 400MHz additional out of any of them. At least not 100% stable and error free, that is. Perhaps these top end processors are binned much more accurately than those with lower frequencies?

Athlon X2 FX-62 = +350MHz (w/ Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe)
Athlon X2 6400+ BE = +80MHz (w/ same Asus M2N32-SLI deluxe)
Phenom 9850 BE = +100MHz (w/ Asus M3A32 deluxe)
Phenom 9950 BE = +400MHz (w/ same Asus M3A32 deluxe)
Phenom II X4 975 BE = +400MHz (w/ Asus Crosshair IV Formula)
FX 8350 BE = +400MHz (w/ Asus Crosshair V Formula Z)
FX 9590 BE = +300MHz (w/ same Asus Crosshair V Formula Z)

Edit: OC 9590 stability testing completed
Edited by Karameikos - 10/20/13 at 6:19am
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