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Should I be concerned that I am looking at user reviews on certain websites for AMD cards and Nvidia cards, and generally the AMD cards have lower scores and many complaitns about artifacting etc? I am seeing a correlation here and I am thinking about buying and would like to buy an AMD card. Should I pay any attention to this as it really seems like they have more problems (maybe caused by overheating, I don't know). I see nvidia cards with over 80% 5 star or whatever, I can't find one AMD card with that kind of feedback, generally about 60% max and the rest of the users have problems with them.

Also I was thinking about getting an ASUS AMD card, with some of the stuff I read it seems like I couldn't make a worse choice! lol. I have read about ASUS having very bad returns/customer support for years now.

Yes I know people generally only make reviews to complain, but there are a lot more complaints for the AMD ones and since Nvidia is meant to have a much bigger market share I don't think it's just down to more AMD cards being sold. What do you think? Am I worrying about nothing or do I have valid concerns?
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oh gosh, this thread is gonna blow up so quick... I'll give u my opinion and observations.

1. yes, amd cards tend to run a little hotter due to higher watt per card. I've seen reviews of new amd cards overheating their vrms. I haven't particularly heard much on the forum however, that's probably because we're enthuistists and willing to add additional cooling if needed. new thermal paste and themal pads do a wonder for fixing cooling of stock cards.
2. for artifacting, what I've seen is that its typically either related to overheating, unstable ocerclocks, or bad drivers. I remember about a year ago amd was notorious for bad drivers, now its nvidia recently. (although I've never had bad nvidia drivers).

IMHO, I think amd is making a comeback, not only in drivers but new cards as well. yes they seem to be a refresh of the previous generation, but they might have big improvements. amd is a small company compared to nvidia, so I think what they've been able to do as far as competition has been quite good recently. we have a big amd section and nvidia section, big fan boys on each side. if your concerned about cost, amd might be better, if your driven based on lowest wattage and best performance, nvidia cards might slightly be better...

hope that helps!
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i sold a 5830, 6870, and a 7950 here in OCN market after using them with care. i hope the new owners are still enjoying them. i still have a 4670, from who knows when, that still runs. my current 7770, 7950, and 7970 are all playing BF4 just fine.

you should be concerned. no worried sick.
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All the NVIDIA cards i owned died due to overheating somehow, just saying tongue.gif

And i thought ATI cards ran cooler than their NVIDIA, if you check benchmark tests with temps.
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in my experience, from all the cards i own, NVIDIA has been more reliable and (usually) has brands that offer good customer support. They are also usually more expensive

AMD tends to be a little cheaper, and (in my opinion) tends to have a little lower quality.
I have owned
9800gt
gtx 260
gtx 275
gtx 460
gtx 580
gtx 590

ati 4870
ati 5870
ati 5970
ati 6990

all of the AMD cards had some sort of problem. 4870 ran hot as hell, 5870 developed a chainsaw like noise in the fan after a year, but did perform great. 5970 video memory failed. 6990 video memory failed (and run hot as hell and sucked a ton of power.) drivers tended to be not very good. crossfire didn't really work aswell as SLI did. customer support is average.

Not a single problem from all of the NVIDIA cards, even after 2 years of using all of them. they all have never had any overheating or artifacting. SLI worked better than crossfire. customer service (most of mine were EVGA, or MSI) were excellent.

i guess i just buy whatever is the best at the time. ATI tends to be more price/performance cards where NVIDIA is great performance and better quality at a better price premium.
ATI does tend to have a little more "special editions" of cards, such as the sapphire toxic, devil 13 7990, asus DC, XFX double d, whereas nvidia tends to have around 1-2 (classified EVGA, MSI lightning)
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This is a very interesting topic I have to say. At least for me as I have recent experience with the AMD side of this as well as a little experience with a few Nvidia cards. I was recently in the process of building my water cooling loop and I needed to buy 2 GPU water blocks. After some research ,and due to an error on my part when I was copying down the number of of my video card, I ordered a Swiftech Komodo HD7970 water block and a 7950 water block. Well it turns out my primary card was a custom PCB 7950 and not a reference 7970 PCB like some of the 7950 boost cards came with. So I couldn't return the water block and I had the video card way to long to return it. So I began my hunt for a 7970.

First card a HIS HD7970 model H797QM3G2M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161412. This card ran for about an hour with tons of artifacts, not even with the waterblock installed yet so I had to RMA it to newegg for another. New card came and performance was HORRIBLE. My Gigabyte 7950 with the custom PCB got MUCH higher benchmark scores and performed much better when playing some GPU heavy games. So I'm not happy and they agree to to a return on that card.

I order a a Sapphire reference version card. It gets to me and the bracket to attach it to the case is bent to hell. Soooo I figured I would risk it. I got OMG I BLEW MY **** UP coverage at on my motherboard and CPU at microcenter so it wouldn't matter if something messes up. Well I installed that card and my PC would not even boot. I would press the power button and my lighting would come on for about a 1/10 of a second and the PC would shut down. I had to pull the power cord and plug it back in to even attempt the boot up again. Same results as before so I call newegg this time and I was mad.... I was rather rude to the customer service guy at the beginning of the call. But we got things sorted out and I was able to return that card as well. In the end i ordered a HIS 7970 GHz edition card and have been very happy since.

Now to the Nvidia side of things. I was building a PC to sell from some parts I had to RMA (built a new PC in the process cause I'm impatient and couldn't wait) and I bought a GT 630. Yes I know this is a crappy card and I found that out instantly as windows aero wouldn't even run. So I returned that and it began my trip into the land of 650s and 660s. First was an EVGA 650 non Ti and the fan was super super super super super super LOUD. Went back to microcenter and exchanged it for a MSI 650. Drove home, put card in PC and no video. No matter what cable i tried nothing. So I go back and return that and get a ASUS 660. That card worked but had major major artifacting was going on so I couldn't keep it. Returned that card and got a HIS HD7790. That card worked like a champ and I could overclock it to max in catalyst software/afterburner/trixx. It ran stable as hell and was super quiet.

I honestly think it is going to be hit and miss with any of these companies and with any of these cards. It all depends on the shipping/packing and overall handling of the box before it gets to you. Yes there are DOA from the factory and things like that but I feel they are rare. The bent bracket on the sappire card i got was due to the box being mishandled. When I went to put it back in the sapphire package i noticed the inner tray that the card sat in was sort of torn. And the material they used in that package is not super easy to tear. So I think it is just the luck of the draw and factors like static discharge or poorly designed cooling solutions some of these cards have. I could go on but nobody wants to read this much on here.
post #7 of 7
Rest assured that either way you go, you'll be fine.

There hasn't been a time in years where both NVidia and AMD offerings were this neck and neck.

Amd gpus will just need to have a little better cooling and more powerful PSU, but overall, the quality is just as good
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