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post #1851 of 2805
Just got the Rival. I was using a G502 for the last 3 months. I really liked it's tracking and shape. But it was too damn heavy for me. My wrist just kept getting tired after playing 2 matches of TDM or S&D in CoD4:Promod. I generally play with assault class and have a 30cm/360 sensitivity. I would play well for first 2 matches and afterwards, my gameplay suffered a lot due to my wrist getting tired moving around that heavy G502. I stuck with it for 3 months since I loved it accuracy and snappy response. Thought I would get used to it but sadly, I couldn't. frown.gif

I bought a KPM first because of it's lightness and 3310 sensor. But it was just too small and my ring finger started to pain after 1-2 hours of gaming. Other than the dimensions of the mouse, everything was perfect.

Then I thought about getting a DA 2013. The DA shape is just perfect for me. In fact, the first ever gaming mouse for me was the 1800DPI DA. My dream mouse would be a DA with 3366/3310 sensor and a software suite like Logitech/Roccat or Plug-n-Play system like Zowie. But I started avoiding it because of the tracking issue when Synapse was installed. Thought about buying a ZA 12 but sadly it isn't yet available locally and importing it through amazon was going to cost a lot. So I settled for a Rival seeing it has a 3310 sensor and felt quite nice in my hand. It's a bit too big for my hands (18.5cm) to grip it in a palm/claw hybrid grip style. My thumb can only press the 1st side button comfortably without affecting the grip. Other than that, it's pretty decent mouse for me in terms of shape. The build quality is pretty average compared to Logitech and Roccat. But then, that's expected of Razer and SS.

I am a bit underwhelmed seeing the customizability of SS Engine 3. Firstly, there are no CPI indicator. There should be a way to indicate the CPI on mouse or on screen, but there isn't any. I don't understand why would SS not include a CPI indicator of some sort on mouse or through Engine. I mean, there are 2 LEDs on mouse and they could've included some sort of color code to indicate the CPI settings.
Then there are only 2 CPI settings available. I actually need 4 CPI settings for different scenarios like one for normal gaming, one for turrets in BF4 etc. Getting stuck with only 2 CPI settings is a bit problematic. Is there any way to add more CPI settings in SS Engine?
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post #1852 of 2805
Have had the Rival for a year now. Play with it occasionally, while I like everything else about it, I hate the left lower side. It digs into my palm and distracts from the grip, like another user pointed out. The left side feels like you are trying to palm a cube shape. Anyone got any tips on how to hold the mouse better or avoid it/fix it? I tried to sand it more round but didn't help that much.

Grip is semipalm/semiclaw hybrid.

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Ditching it for a EC1-A would be wise. But beware of broken mwheels on Zowie mice.
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Ditching it for a EC1-A would be wise. But beware of broken mwheels on Zowie mice.
Ec1-a's shape is nice, but the weight distribution is so horse bollocks. It feels like a 120 g mouse Imho. Whereas Rival feels like a 100 g mouse.
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I actually need 4 CPI settings for different scenarios like one for normal gaming, one for turrets in BF4 etc. Getting stuck with only 2 CPI settings is a bit problematic. Is there any way to add more CPI settings in SS Engine?

Anyone?
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post #1856 of 2805
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Anyone?

of course not, or they would have advertised it BIG.
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In BF3 u can vary sensivity of vehicles in editing the PROF_SAVE_profile.ini file located in Documents\Battlefield3
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Anyone?


I do not think you need that.
In BF4 you can change vehicles sensivity. Your main sens should be good for tanks and turretts, and the second set can be useful for jets.

Anyway, it's really weird to have 4 different DPI for different vehicles...
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In BF3 u can vary sensivity of vehicles in editing the PROF_SAVE_profile.ini file located in Documents\Battlefield3
I do not think you need that.
In BF4 you can change vehicles sensivity. Your main sens should be good for tanks and turretts, and the second set can be useful for jets.

Anyway, it's really weird to have 4 different DPI for different vehicles...

I usually set 4 DPI's not for different vehicles in BF4 but for different purposes. 400 for precision works, 800 for gaming, then one for desktop/bf4 vehicles/quick strafing etc and one for just the heck of it!

Anyway, I have set up my mouse using the Engine 3 program. Now should I uninstall it or keep it installed? Is there any negative impact of Engine 3 on tracking accuracy, acceleration latency etc?
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Anyway, I have set up my mouse using the Engine 3 program. Now should I uninstall it or keep it installed? Is there any negative impact of Engine 3 on tracking accuracy, acceleration latency etc?

i would just take it out of the autostart.
if you don't wanna change settings ever again, you can also uninstall it(and see if your mouse isn't broken like my black one was, which lost it's settings after one day again without the SSE running).
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Was running a quick test using Mousetest. Found out that, at 800DPI the average smoothing is 14.38% after running the test 10 times. At 1800DPi, the average smoothing goes down to 10.18%. Not sure whether to come to a conclusion that Rival has less smoothing at 1800DPI. Guess I need to rerun the test few more times. I'm using FW 1.8 and the tests were done on a 2yr old Qck+.

Funny thing is, G502 gives an average smoothing of 12.3% at 800DPI. Strange.
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