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post #991 of 2803
I've been lurking this thread for a while, but I joined up to post...

I recently ordered my Rival ~2-3 weeks ago. The mouse is great, a little big for my smaller hands, but it's still a nice upgrade/update from my old Logitech. I've noticed when playing BF4, that I've had issues shooting while scoped. I think it's been mentioned a few times in this thread, but what's happening is that when I hold RMB down to scope, that when I fire with LMB the LMB is catching on and/or interfering with the RMB. It seems that the buttons are thin and flexible enough that they can be pushed together towards the center, far enough that they can touch and/or get a small corner or edge caught under each other. So if you're zooming and firing but also moving mouse side to side, this puts a torque on the mouse buttons which then allows them to push into each other.

Anyone that has experienced this, did an RMA fix this for you or is this just a flaw in the overall design? Also, if I have to keep RMA'ing mice, it's going to get costly paying to ship a mouse out over and over. Anyone who's experienced this, let me know how it got sorted, IF it go sorted.
post #992 of 2803
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Originally Posted by deejaybos View Post

I've been lurking this thread for a while, but I joined up to post...

I recently ordered my Rival ~2-3 weeks ago. The mouse is great, a little big for my smaller hands, but it's still a nice upgrade/update from my old Logitech. I've noticed when playing BF4, that I've had issues shooting while scoped. I think it's been mentioned a few times in this thread, but what's happening is that when I hold RMB down to scope, that when I fire with LMB the LMB is catching on and/or interfering with the RMB. It seems that the buttons are thin and flexible enough that they can be pushed together towards the center, far enough that they can touch and/or get a small corner or edge caught under each other. So if you're zooming and firing but also moving mouse side to side, this puts a torque on the mouse buttons which then allows them to push into each other.

Anyone that has experienced this, did an RMA fix this for you or is this just a flaw in the overall design? Also, if I have to keep RMA'ing mice, it's going to get costly paying to ship a mouse out over and over. Anyone who's experienced this, let me know how it got sorted, IF it go sorted.

it's a flaw in the design i filed down where it was rubbing and it helped some. it might void the warranty i dunno.. i dont use the rival anymore using the kana v2 ( http://www.twitch.tv/godson/c/3264554 ) another thing that happens when i used the rival :< just not the mouse for me its not the sensor obviously the 3310 is beast but the way its placed in the mouse and the way i move it fks it up.
post #993 of 2803
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it's a flaw in the design i filed down where it was rubbing and it helped some. it might void the warranty i dunno.. i dont use the rival anymore using the kana v2 ( http://www.twitch.tv/godson/c/3264554 ) another thing that happens when i used the rival :< just not the mouse for me its not the sensor obviously the 3310 is beast but the way its placed in the mouse and the way i move it fks it up.

Does the Kana v2 suffer the same issues? If not, maybe I should just return this one and trade for that. It seems like the SteelSeries website doesn't even have the Kana available anymore. Just Rival, Sensei, and Kinzu
post #994 of 2803
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Does the Kana v2 suffer the same issues? If not, maybe I should just return this one and trade for that. It seems like the SteelSeries website doesn't even have the Kana available anymore. Just Rival, Sensei, and Kinzu

kana v2 doesn't have the issue but you have to order it off ebay if you live in NA and it costs quite a bit ;d i grabbed 2 and i love it and i'm verrrryyyy picky about mice.
post #995 of 2803
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kana v2 doesn't have the issue but you have to order it off ebay if you live in NA and it costs quite a bit ;d i grabbed 2 and i love it and i'm verrrryyyy picky about mice.

Strange that the Kana v2 isn't available to NA, do you have any experience with the Sensei to compare the two? Looks like I can get a Kana v2 with a little extra effort, but if the Sensei is comparable, maybe I'll trade my Rival for that.
post #996 of 2803
I have the Sensei, rival and the kana v2. I must say the kana v2 is amazing. LOD is alittle high. The sensei has a laser sensor so you will have hardware acceleration.

    
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post #997 of 2803
OK, two questions:

1. The Rival is a little big for my hand, would you say that the Kana v2 would fit a little more comfortably, or is it about the same size?
2. Do you or anyone know if the Kana v2 is ever going to be sold in the US? Cheapest I've seen it is ~$70, which seems high for a mouse that has fewer features than the mouse I just spend $52 on, the Rival (although slightly flawed).

Thanks for your help
post #998 of 2803
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Originally Posted by deejaybos View Post

OK, two questions:

1. The Rival is a little big for my hand, would you say that the Kana v2 would fit a little more comfortably, or is it about the same size?
2. Do you or anyone know if the Kana v2 is ever going to be sold in the US? Cheapest I've seen it is ~$70, which seems high for a mouse that has fewer features than the mouse I just spend $52 on, the Rival (although slightly flawed).

Thanks for your help
I asked their support about this a little while ago. Their response:
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Thank you for your interest in our products. Unfortunately, we are out of stock of the other Kana mice in the US and do not plan on getting more due to a low demand. In Europe they still have a little stock left, but the US sold through the existing stock and we only have the Kana CS:GO Edition available at this time.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
SteelSeries Store Support

And this is a response to the Kinzu V2 Pro being dropped from their store:
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It is unfortunately the same case with the Kinzu, no more stock coming in due to a low demand. We currently only have the Kinzu v2 Rubberized black in stock in the US.

We are so Sorry!

Thanks,
Web Order Support

So, I guess their excuse is low sales. I still don't get why they can't stock a web store. It's not like they are a brick and mortar store, and they're not a re-seller, so it doesn't cost them anything to stock those mice. Your only option is to import unfortunately.

Honestly, the Kana didn't have the sales here because it's sensor was ****, sensor position was off, and the side buttons were done wrong. They only fixed one of those issues with the V2. Not to mention, the color scheme just looks retarded IMO.

Kinzu V2/Pro is pretty much the same story. Bad sensor and sensor position. They fix those two things and it would sell very well.
post #999 of 2803
Wow, so that's increddibly unfortunate. So, options are Sensei, which many are saying isn't all that great, Rival, which I have and am already returning, or the Kinzu, which is small and suffers similar issues. The only way to get a Kana v2 is by importing and buying through eBay or Amazon vendors that charge way over priced. Guess I need to look into a different brand. I'm currently replacing a Logitech G500 that died on me, and the current selection of Logitech gaming mice look terrible or they're wireless, and I hate wireless.

:sigh:
post #1000 of 2803
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Wow, so that's increddibly unfortunate. So, options are Sensei, which many are saying isn't all that great, Rival, which I have and am already returning, or the Kinzu, which is small and suffers similar issues. The only way to get a Kana v2 is by importing and buying through eBay or Amazon vendors that charge way over priced. Guess I need to look into a different brand. I'm currently replacing a Logitech G500 that died on me, and the current selection of Logitech gaming mice look terrible or they're wireless, and I hate wireless.

:sigh:

There's nothing wrong with the G400, but if that's not your bag, then it's time to move on to another brand. I'd definitely suggest looking at the Mionix or Zowie side of the fence. Both are my favorite mouse companies (and they both make a decent keyboard as well). For either company they make a shell to cover the most basic grip shapes. The Avior is good for a claw/hybrid grip, and some even say they palm it comfortably. The Naos is built for a full palm. It's a wonderful shape that fits your hand like glove. The only issue I had with it is that it's a bit hard to lift. Go for the 7000 series of either of those.

Zowie is a bit more broad. They offer the EC series that are a deathadder (both large and smaller) shape, the FK which is like a smaller optical sensei, and the AM which is almost identical to the FK except the sides angle in toward the top. They all use the same sensor. The only issue people have with them is they use their own lens in order to lower the lift off distance. This causes the DPI steps to be odd and a slightly lower perfect control speed, but still over 3m/s.
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