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But since you all know Intel is a monopoly and more than likely have bullied around a few OEM's, then AMD shouldnt be criticized for its actions.
Monopoly? Please...just because they are the biggest chipmaker in the world does not make them a monopoly. Id advise you to take an economics class. Just because AMD claims that Intel is monopoly does not suddenly make them a monopoly. Both sides are guilty of corporate bullying, and in fact just about every corporation is.
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post #22 of 50
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Monopoly? Please...just because they are the biggest chipmaker in the world does not make them a monopoly. Id advise you to take an economics class. Just because AMD claims that Intel is monopoly does not suddenly make them a monopoly. Both sides are guilty of corporate bullying, and in fact just about every corporation is.

Intel falls within the realm of "natural monopoly" (not exactly, but it's there). Competitors are trying to break Intel anyway they can. Nothing wrong with that.
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post #23 of 50
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No, the amazing thing is that people consider the first link on google to be good research. If you are going to support an argument with facts, simply searching on google and clicking on the first link just doesn't cut it.

That's another standard come back. It gets old rather fast.
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AMD just can't and will never be able to compete, they don't have the FABs nor capacity to mass produce and to make matters worse, their FABs are in an European country where labor is real expensive (not India nor Israel).

Even a lot of people have noticed th shortage on X2s and A64. So to this date, they cannot keep up with the demand and the demand only keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

So here are a few facts that Intel released back in 2005 and to this date, they still hold true:

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In a statement filed with the U.S. District Court in Delaware, Intel said "AMD's complaint presents a case study in legal dissonance. Although AMD has purportedly brought its complaint to promote competition, its true aim is the opposite. Under the cover of competition law, AMD seeks to shield itself from competition. AMD seeks to impede Intel's ability to lower prices and thereby to allow AMD to charge higher prices. AMD's colorful language and fanciful claims cannot obscure AMD's goal of shielding AMD from price competition."
Source: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3531781

Remember the X2 3800+ for $500? Now what? $130.....LOL. Intel's middle-heavy weights never went down that drastically in price. If I can recall, AMD is being sued as well by some other company because of this same "practice". Go figure, everybody sues each-other.
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Well to be fair, why wouldn't AMD charge $500+ for their dual cores. Those chips got all sorts of praises for their performance over Intel's offerings of the time and obviously people were more than willing to fork out that kind of cash for them. Intel did the same thing until AMD started to offer cheaper alternatives to their chips. It is a capitalistic market afterall, a market in which the main concern of a firm is to maximize profits.
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post #26 of 50
Intel being the biggest chip maker in the world by itself doesn't make it a monopoly. If they leverage their high fab capabilities and sell chips for way less than AMD, that still doesn't make them a monopoly. However, if they threaten OEMS to take away large discounts off their chips if the OEMS also stock AMD, that's a monopoly. That's hitting below the belt and that's what Intel is accused of doing.
    
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post #27 of 50
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Not worth my time then.
When a website starts off their article with:

"CHIP FIRM Chimpzilla (AMD)"

You know not to waste your time.
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When a website starts off their article with:

"CHIP FIRM Chimpzilla (AMD)"

You know not to waste your time.
Nearly all tech. related articles nowdays that one finds in the internet have that sort of humor in them. Almost none of them have the "serious" tone of serious journalism (if there is such a thing as serious journalism anyways).
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If you can't beat them, talk $hit about them.
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Facts, if you can't accept that Intel threghtened to with hold development data to companys that purchased there CPUs if the bought AMD units, then you might as well admit there is no Sun in the sky.
When I find the articles of admittance to such practices bestowed upon said corporations I'll post them, IF I feel like it! Yes, there are such things out there seen it read it, find it your self if you do believe it
GEE, I wonder why even the likes of DELL are no longer using ONLY Intel CPUs

Frankly, I fed up with the whold thing, Intel deserves everything they get.

BTW, for those that think because the article was at a "AMD" sight it had any slant in it!
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1952036,00.asp

More on relative antitrust practices by Intel.
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbi...301_227521.htm

and...
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/200...les_antitrust/

Just 6 hours ago...
http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3651241
    
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