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Hi everyone, I'm planning to build my first gaming PC (most likely ordering the parts next month). I plan to use this PC mainly for movies, music and gaming, i.e. BF4, etc. and I will have a dual monitor setup, 1 monitor will be 1080p 23.6" and the other will be an HP L1910 (non HD, 19")

Here is the planned setup:

CPU: i5 3570K
Case: Antec One (2 fans, 2 USB 3.0, etc.)
Memory: Kingston DDR3 8GB 1600MHz HyperX Beast series CL9 Performance Gaming RAM
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB WD10EZEX
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H
Wireless Adapter: TP-LINK TL-WN881ND 300Mbps Wireless N PCI-E Express Adapter
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 24x Internal SA
PSU: Cooler Master Thunder 600W ATX12V PSU Retail Box
Monitor: AOC e2450Swh 23.6 LED Monitor - Black, Full HD 1920x1080p, 20,000,000:1(DCR), HDMI, DVI, 5ms, Speakers, VESA
Operating System: Windows 7 64 bit OEM

I don't plan to overclock the CPU immediately, but when I do I'll buy the CM Hyper 212 Evo as my CPU cooler, till then I'll just use the stock fan.

I will either buy the Sapphire 7950 Dual-x or the Sapphire 7850 Dual-x (I live in NZ, so it's cheaper to buy these from overseas, and the cheapest I could find is from provantage.com with international shipping)

EDIT: I definitely plan to overclock the GPU pretty soon though.

Sapphire 7950 - http://www.provantage.com/sapphire-technology-11196-19-20g~7SAPP07X.htm
Sapphire 7870 - http://www.provantage.com/sapphire-technology-11199-19-20g~7SAPP07J.htm

If I get the 7950, I won't be getting an SSD, but if I get the 7870 then I'll most likely spend the saved money on a 60ish gig SSD for my system. I want to know:

If I compromise on the graphics card, will the extra performance from the SSD be worth compromising graphics settings on games like BF4, i.e. will I still be able to play them on high ish settings with 60ish FPS?

Is it worth going for a more expensive graphics card and not getting an SSD, i.e. for the purposes mentioned above, what do you think I should go for?

Any input is appreciated, thanks biggrin.gif
Edited by syn17 - 10/10/13 at 7:02pm
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post #2 of 9
If you're keeping the video card around for a while it will be better to get the 7950 and forego the SSD just for a bit.
Since you only want a 60-64gb drive for your OS you should be able to get one nice and cheap afterward.
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Okay thanks, I guess that makes sense. Is the model of the 7950 that I've linked a good one in terms of overclocking, noise, power consumption, etc? I can't really find many reviews of it, and does anyone else have any input?

EDIT: And at stock, will the 7950 and 3570k combo run BF4 on high settings at around 60ish FPS? Or would I need to OC the CPU for that?
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The 7950 will do you more good than a 60gb SSD. Having a small 60gb ssd is VERY annoying. Itd be like having a lamborgini with a distance of 2 miles before it ran out of gas...


Tye 7950 could let you Max out bf4. The 7870 will be too weak, then you'd also find out that micromanaging a 60gb SSD just sucks.

Get the 7950 now, 128-256gb ssd way down the road

You could purchase a small 32gb ssd and use Intel SRT to make that SSS a cache drive. Best of both worlds
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Okay, cool. I'll most likely get the 7950 then, but will a stock 3570k bottleneck an OC'd 7950? Also, I plan to have one of the PCIe slots on the mobo taken up by a TP Link 881ND wireless adapter, so will the GA Z77 D3H have enough PCIe slots left over to be able to support the version of the 7950 that I want to get?
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A decent 120GB SSD can be had for around $100 or less. You can now find 7950s for right around $200. If your budget can handle $300 get the SSD and a 7950 and be happy smile.gif
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Okay, but the problem is that I'm in NZ and that means that the 7950 still costs around $370ish USD ($450ish NZD) And the cheapest price I can find that will ship to NZ is from provantage which is $237 USD excl shipping, so does anyone know where I can get it cheaper than that but still have it shipped internationally? Same with the SSD
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Okay, but the problem is that I'm in NZ and that means that the 7950 still costs around $370ish USD ($450ish NZD) And the cheapest price I can find that will ship to NZ is from provantage which is $237 USD excl shipping, so does anyone know where I can get it cheaper than that but still have it shipped internationally? Same with the SSD

www.pccasegear.com

7950's for under $300 AUD, shipping is cheap too. 128GB SSD's go for around $99-$110.

Happy shopping!
    
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They only ship to Australia frown.gif
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