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Im a total newbie in barebones. If i just want one who can play normal games on good settings, what should i get?
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Me personally, I favor AMD processors. To me, they seem to have better spec-price ratio as opposed to intel CPUs. Even the top of the line AMD chip right now (FX-9590) is less than an intel chip with the same (or similar) specifications. Again this is my own personal opinion so no hate for the intel guys out there. wink.gif both companies make good chips I just feel AMD is a better bang for your buck.
Edited by Mtnd3w89 - 10/11/13 at 7:28am
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If bang for buck is your primary concern, then AMD. If just bang is your main concern, then Intel.

Unlike the GPU world where AMD is very competitive, the quality difference between AMD and Intel CPUs is still very high, and AMD seems to be slowing even further if anything. It's gotten to the where AMD is barely putting up a fight at all, and Intel has been allowed to rest on its laurels and greatly slow down the progress on its own CPUs.

Though both will do just fine on most of today's games, except those few that are heavily CPU-bound (eg. Hitman Absolution, Skyrim)

Next gen (mere months away) is a different story though. CPUs will become much more important - especially octo-core or hyperthreaded CPUs, since next gen consoles will have 8 cores. Intel CPUs will continue to dominate in terms of raw power, but AMD may get a theoretical advantage since games will be now designed for next gen consoles that will be running AMD hardware.

So, if you don't care about maxing everything out and/or futureproofing, you can probably get any old budget CPU and be fine. If you want to continue playing games without problems in, say, 2015, you probably should get the best CPU you can afford, preferably Intel, and preferably an i7 (which has 8 virtual cores)
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If bang for buck is your primary concern, then AMD. If just bang is your main concern, then Intel.

Unlike the GPU world where AMD is very competitive, the quality difference between AMD and Intel CPUs is still very high, and AMD seems to be slowing even further if anything. It's gotten to the where AMD is barely putting up a fight at all, and Intel has been allowed to rest on its laurels and greatly slow down the progress on its own CPUs.

Though both will do just fine on most of today's games, except those few that are heavily CPU-bound (eg. Hitman Absolution, Skyrim)

Next gen (mere months away) is a different story though. CPUs will become much more important - especially octo-core or hyperthreaded CPUs, since next gen consoles will have 8 cores. Intel CPUs will continue to dominate in terms of raw power, but AMD may get a theoretical advantage since games will be now designed for next gen consoles that will be running AMD hardware.

So, if you don't care about maxing everything out and/or futureproofing, you can probably get any old budget CPU and be fine. If you want to continue playing games without problems in, say, 2015, you probably should get the best CPU you can afford, preferably Intel, and preferably an i7 (which has 8 virtual cores)

Holy hell, so much wrong with this.....I don't even know where to start....

First and foremost, the difference in performance between the Flagship i7, excluding the enthusiast tier socket 2011, and AMD's flagship processors is literally a FEW frames per second in the most demanding of games. This has been shown time and time again in review after review after review.

Don't believe me? Linus has several videos on the matter, Tech Syndicate has several videos on the matter, and so do many others. Just Youtube them.

Running in games like Crysis 3 maxed out the i7 3770K had a few FPS advantage over the FX-8350......

There is VERY little "quality" difference between the two, and even using the term "quality" here is very subjective. What is "quality"? They both are well built parts, manufactured to ridiculous standards. They both OC very well, arguably the FX series OCs more than the i7. Performance levels are right near each other.....define "quality".

Quality from the perspective of craftsmanship and build, they are both manufactured to ridiculous standards. Both packaged well......I am not even sure where to go with a "quality" statement on the matter...

So, HI86, to answer your question directly; AMD offers the best bang for the buck by a very large margin, and in real world situations there is very little difference between Intel and AMD. You would be hard pressed to notice a difference between the two when using them, it would be nearly impossible for someone sitting at a system to tell you which was which if they didn't already know.

Another point to consider, for the cost of a single i7 3770K or 4770K, you can buy an AMD FX-8350, motherboard, and RAM.

Feel free to look at my sig rig as well, I think it will eliminate any thoughts of bias.
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Im a total newbie in barebones. If i just want one who can play normal games on good settings, what should i get?

Some things you need to consider...

Intel currently has a major advantage in processing power per clock speed, per core. Intel is a much larger chip maker, and is a few generations ahead of AMD. In the high-end consumer market, Intel has no real competition.

AMD trys to make up the difference with; more cores, more cycles per second, less cost.

So how do they stack up?

It truly depends on the specific tests you're performing. Or rather, the software/game you're using to fully utilize the computer (and what resolution you're gaming at!).

Take this chart for example. It's crysis at low settings (to stress the CPU, not the GPU).

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2012/-20-Crysis-II,3175.html

The AMD FX 8350 8 core 8 thread @ 4.2 Ghz is the top performing AMD processor on this list. A close competitor is a Lynnfield 4 core 8 thread @ 3.7hz. chip. And it's 3 generations old! All mainstream consumer 4 core 4/8 thread Intel chips do exceedingly well in this test.

Something else this chart tells us is: there's not a huge difference (in Crysis, at this resolution) between all the chips. Intel's top performing per clock, per core architecture (haswell) scores 121.80 fps. Yet, many AMD and Intel chips easily achieve 100+ fps. Will you be able to see a difference between 100 fps and 120 fps? Nope.

My greater point is this:

When comparing AMD vs Intel, it's important to take into consideration the software you're using.
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