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Should I replace my mobo or CPU as well?

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So my mobo seems to be on the verge of dying - under 40% load I get BSOD 124 within 10 minutes at stock with extra volts.

I still (hopefully!) have a funcitoning 1055T. Options I've come up with:
1) Sabertooth 990FX
2) Cheaper mobo
3) Sell the 1055T (they go for a fair bit suprisingly enough) and buy a whole mobo+CPU combo. ATX prefered, though I can go smaller. My case can't hold E-ATX though (Midi R2).

My cooler is the Hyper 212 EVO, so don't expect WCing level temps. Heaviest thing I do is game, but only for a few hours a week (more during holidays) so I'm not forking out for an intel system. Budget is flexible, but I don't want to be going over £150 (before selling the 1055T).

All (reasonable) opinions greatly appreciated!
 
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Originally Posted by Moragg View Post

So my mobo seems to be on the verge of dying - under 40% load I get BSOD 124 within 10 minutes at stock with extra volts.

I still (hopefully!) have a funcitoning 1055T. Options I've come up with:
1) Sabertooth 990FX
2) Cheaper mobo
3) Sell the 1055T (they go for a fair bit suprisingly enough) and buy a whole mobo+CPU combo. ATX prefered, though I can go smaller. My case can't hold E-ATX though (Midi R2).

My cooler is the Hyper 212 EVO, so don't expect WCing level temps. Heaviest thing I do is game, but only for a few hours a week (more during holidays) so I'm not forking out for an intel system. Budget is flexible, but I don't want to be going over £150 (before selling the 1055T).

All (reasonable) opinions greatly appreciated!
AsRock 970 Extreme3 or Extreme4
AsRock 990 Extreme3 or Extreme4
Any of these mobo will handle that 1055T you have.
 
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Originally Posted by dixson01974 View Post

AsRock 970 Extreme3 or Extreme4
AsRock 990 Extreme3 or Extreme4
Any of these mobo will handle that 1055T you have.
Thanks! How do these compare to the Sabertooth? I'm less interested in the extra PCI-E x16 slots than the CPU OCing - all the reviews seem to say the Sabertooth is the best in that regard.
 
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Thanks! How do these compare to the Sabertooth? I'm less interested in the extra PCI-E x16 slots than the CPU OCing - all the reviews seem to say the Sabertooth is the best in that regard.
Sabertooth is one of the top end mobos

believe me though it is worth the money
 
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Thanks! How do these compare to the Sabertooth? I'm less interested in the extra PCI-E x16 slots than the CPU OCing - all the reviews seem to say the Sabertooth is the best in that regard.
The Asus Sabertooth one of the best mobo out there for ocing. Please read the below comment too.
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Originally Posted by Spectre- View Post

Sabertooth is one of the top end mobos

believe me though it is worth the money
True and not worth the money. I have 7 RMA within 2 years on my Sabertooth and the mobo is still mess up. So if you look at threads in the AMD Mobo Section there is many of people having the same problems and Asus is not doing anything about expect send out bad mobo to people with RMA. Most people are having there PCI-e slot or NB chip going bad. So If you look at the time you are going to be out of a PC then it is not worth anything to me.
If you get an Asus Sabertooth keep an eye out on the PCI-e speeds. I had 4 Sabertooth mobo that came back with the PCI-e slots running at 1.1 x4, 1.1 x8, 2.0 x4 and 2.0 x8 and this is in PCI-e slot 1.
The AsRock mobo I listed can handle all AM3 CPU to 4.0ghz+ and AM3+ 4/6 cores without a problem when you ocing it. AM3+ 8 core with a mild oc like around 4.2-4.5ghz.
 
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Originally Posted by dixson01974 View Post

The Asus Sabertooth one of the best mobo out there for ocing. Please read the below comment too.
True and not worth the money. I have 7 RMA within 2 years on my Sabertooth and the mobo is still mess up. So if you look at threads in the AMD Mobo Section there is many of people having the same problems and Asus is not doing anything about expect send out bad mobo to people with RMA. Most people are having there PCI-e slot or NB chip going bad. So If you look at the time you are going to be out of a PC then it is not worth anything to me.
If you get an Asus Sabertooth keep an eye out on the PCI-e speeds. I had 4 Sabertooth mobo that came back with the PCI-e slots running at 1.1 x4, 1.1 x8, 2.0 x4 and 2.0 x8 and this is in PCI-e slot 1.
The AsRock mobo I listed can handle all AM3 CPU to 4.0ghz+ and AM3+ 4/6 cores without a problem when you ocing it. AM3+ 8 core with a mild oc like around 4.2-4.5ghz.
really

i have had asrock , msi, gigabyte mobos

asus 's sabertooth for my pc and my brother's pc seems to be the best choice i have had

and i have had terrible rma process with gigabyte and asrock

with the sabertooth 990FX i can achieve 4.6 ghz w/ a kuhler 620 (24/7)
with my X79 sabertooth i got to 3930k w/ 4.6 ghz (24/7)
 
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Originally Posted by mongen View Post

Which voltage have you tried to increase?

0x124 sounds like insufficient CPU-NB voltage - up the voltage a notch in BIOS

...unless you're looking for an excuse to upgrade, if so then go for it lol!
CPU-NB... I've just got mine set to Auto, are there any tools that would let me find out what it should be?

There is a bit of "upgrade itch" since I've got my 840EVO running on SATAII right now and no USB 3
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Originally Posted by Spectre- View Post

really

i have had asrock , msi, gigabyte mobos

asus 's sabertooth for my pc and my brother's pc seems to be the best choice i have had

and i have had terrible rma process with gigabyte and asrock

with the sabertooth 990FX i can achieve 4.6 ghz w/ a kuhler 620 (24/7)
with my X79 sabertooth i got to 3930k w/ 4.6 ghz (24/7)
Expensive... I'm just running a 212 Evo, and don't have the cash to upgrade that any time soon. So there's little point me going for the Sabertooth if the extra few MHz it gives me cause too much heat.
 
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Originally Posted by Spectre- View Post

really

i have had asrock , msi, gigabyte mobos

asus 's sabertooth for my pc and my brother's pc seems to be the best choice i have had

and i have had terrible rma process with gigabyte and asrock

with the sabertooth 990FX i can achieve 4.6 ghz w/ a kuhler 620 (24/7)
with my X79 sabertooth i got to 3930k w/ 4.6 ghz (24/7)
There is nothing wrong with the ocing ability of the Sabertooth. I got 4.8ghz+ on the FX-8320 I had. Just the PCI-e slot or NB chip going bad, so like I said before " Keep an eye out on the PCI-E speeds".
 
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CPU-NB... I've just got mine set to Auto, are there any tools that would let me find out what it should be?

Well, it should be set so it doesn't blue screen on you - that's the only tool. Find out what it is stock for your setup, then adjust it so it doesn't blue screen anymore...this sounds like the underlying issue
 
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There is nothing wrong with the ocing ability of the Sabertooth. I got 4.8ghz+ on the FX-8320 I had. Just the PCI-e slot or NB chip going bad, so like I said before " Keep an eye out on the PCI-E speeds".
hmmm

i will keep an eye out for that

i havnt seen a problem yet considering i put my 2 7950's on my brothers rig and they were running on x8 and x8

and on my x79 its running x16 and x16
 
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It's either a mobo or psu problem. Sometimes on startup my CPU fan just doesn't start, and rocks a bit until a few minutes later it finally gets going and suddenly computer turns on. In another slot the CPU fan is fine, I'm guessing some of my capacitors are going bad (not visibly) and losing their ability to hold charge and/or leaking, or it's a PSU problem since the CPU fan is powered by the 24-pin connector.
 
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It's either a mobo or psu problem. Sometimes on startup my CPU fan just doesn't start, and rocks a bit until a few minutes later it finally gets going and suddenly computer turns on. In another slot the CPU fan is fine, I'm guessing some of my capacitors are going bad (not visibly) and losing their ability to hold charge and/or leaking, or it's a PSU problem since the CPU fan is powered by the 24-pin connector.
Sound like cpu fan header is going out. I would just switch header.
 
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Sound like cpu fan header is going out. I would just switch header.
No other fan header unfortunately, and mobo won't boot without something in the CPU fan header. I still think there are bigger issues - a few months back I started getting problems on what had been a perfectly functioning set of RAM for a year, and was fine on a different computer with 8 passes of memtest. Also upping certain voltages makes my fan start instantly without issue.
 
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No other fan header unfortunately, and mobo won't boot without something in the CPU fan header. I still think there are bigger issues - a few months back I started getting problems on what had been a perfectly functioning set of RAM for a year, and was fine on a different computer with 8 passes of memtest. Also upping certain voltages makes my fan start instantly without issue.
You can order something like this and it will work. But the fan will run full speed ahead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119149
 
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Originally Posted by dixson01974 View Post

You can order something like this and it will work. But the fan will run full speed ahead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119149
Potentially, but to be honest I want the new mobo. My current mobo won't let my OC far (FSB wall), has no LLC, SATA3, USB3, seems finicky with RAM, large voltage steps, lots of vdroop...

The question is just what to get. The plan is to buy a motherboard, see how far I can push my 1055T, if not far then sell it off and get a FX6300 instead. So I need something with enough power for OCing the 6300, but not too far since my 212 EVO would probably struggle under very high OCs. It's tempting just to throw money at the problem, but I don't need the last few MHz so I just want something that'll last a year or two until ARM enters the enthusiast CPU market or AMD release Excavator.
 
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Originally Posted by Moragg View Post

Potentially, but to be honest I want the new mobo. My current mobo won't let my OC far (FSB wall), has no LLC, SATA3, USB3, seems finicky with RAM, large voltage steps, lots of vdroop...

The question is just what to get. The plan is to buy a motherboard, see how far I can push my 1055T, if not far then sell it off and get a FX6300 instead. So I need something with enough power for OCing the 6300, but not too far since my 212 EVO would probably struggle under very high OCs. It's tempting just to throw money at the problem, but I don't need the last few MHz so I just want something that'll last a year or two until ARM enters the enthusiast CPU market or AMD release Excavator.
What is your budget for a mobo?
Sorry I should have ask this question at the beginning.
 
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What is your budget for a mobo?
Sorry I should have ask this question at the beginning.
While budget isn't entirely an issue (I can afford the Sabertooth) my aim is just to get a mobo which will give me all the tools I need to OC my 1055T as far as it can go with my current cooling solution, or an FX6300 if I switch up. I'm deliberately avoiding the 8320 and 8350 because of their very high power draws when OCed.

The question is really whether there are any such mobos under £110, if something costs more then I may as well pay the little bit extra to get the Sabertooth. If there's something cheaper that'll manage the same results (or ~150MHz less) then that's probably better value for money.
 
#24 ·
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While budget isn't entirely an issue (I can afford the Sabertooth) my aim is just to get a mobo which will give me all the tools I need to OC my 1055T as far as it can go with my current cooling solution, or an FX6300 if I switch up. I'm deliberately avoiding the 8320 and 8350 because of their very high power draws when OCed.

The question is really whether there are any such mobos under £110, if something costs more then I may as well pay the little bit extra to get the Sabertooth. If there's something cheaper that'll manage the same results (or ~150MHz less) then that's probably better value for money.
Can you link some sites for me to I can help better.

EDIT
I would avoid the Asus Sabertooth, because of all the problems ppl are having with it.
 
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Can you link some sites for me to I can help better.
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/motherboards-amd/socket-am3plus-amd-970-990 (preferred, I get free 1 day delivery from them).

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1903&sortby=nameAsc&subid=2046&mfrid=

Edit: and some more:
http://www.ebuyer.com/

http://www.novatech.co.uk/

http://www.aria.co.uk/

http://www.dabs.com/

Though I expect prices to be pretty similar across all those, and scan is usually within £5 of the lowest price.
 
#26 ·
I am in the middle of shopping for my AMD build, I have been looking and looking for 2 weeks now to make sure I have the right deal....Im buying cheaper than you motherboard wise but I looked at the more expensive boards to see if I could find a deal...

I would advise either a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 or the Asus M5A99FX. both can be picked up for a little over £100 and both are very good clocking boards from the multiple reviews I have read.

That should save you about £30/40 then selling your 1055t (around £70/75 would leave you minimum £100...the FX-8320 is only £120 with a bit of luck , you get a good deal on the motherboard and sell the 1055 high leaving you around £115...sell your motherboard as faulty (not as untested thats just plain scamming) and you should get a good price for it (explaining the faults)

If you can net your self a free CPU upgrade. maybe even make yourself some cash.
 
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