Originally Posted by phill1978
Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric
God why do people care about stuff like this? If some company wants to use my ugly mug for some ad I don't feel violated in any way. Seriously, whatever....
I think as tech people who sit on the internet far too much we are the ones who see the collection's of small steps over time from companies to force 'integration' on the consumers (may aswell call it assimilation) as a bigger picture. Don't forget Google is forcing you to have your real name on youtube and create a channel even if you only want to watch videos.. then that channel links into your life and all your details on google+
(Que.. you can opt out response but then look at facebooks very recent changes)
(from a purely selfish point of view) I know many people are walking right into a mouse trap with regards to their life and data being sold tiny bits of candy along the way, well if millions continue this way (and they will) then MY rights are effected because of mass stupidity and we already have that in 'real life' with all the excessive health and safety bull crap because someone was too dumb not to spill hot coffee on their lap in Macdonald's .. add infinitum to the most ridiculous nanny state society (both UK and the US do this for control nothing more)
So, if you favor the march of the morons and want to be included in that storm with all the other idiots.. please refrain from dragging me in aswell.
You're not forced to use your real name or to have a Google Plus account. I don't use my real name on YouTube because if gives you a pop up asking what you want to do. Also that hot coffee thing was actually about McDonalds having their hot coffee 'too hot' and them figuring it'd cost too much to make the change to every McDonalds rather than just take on the law suits. And really this 'mouse trap' you speak of is just people understanding that if you put your information on a website that's free to use, it's pretty understandable that they put it to use. It's nothing absurd, if you're making a review on a public website, why do you care that it shows up when your friend looks the product up? Isn't that the entire point of you writing the review? So others can see your opinion on the product?
Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead
Originally Posted by deafboy
If you don't want your info/photos used... don't share said photos using their free service after you agreed to the ToS.
Does this mean that since I didn't agree to any ToS with Google, that I can use a rocket launcher when Google comes down my street and take pictures of my house and car?
How about if I never signed up to any Google service before in my life and my stupid nephew, who is a Google junkie, snaps photos of me at the family reunion then uploads MY IMAGE, at a private party, INSIDE my brothers house, and where I never signed a waiver, then uploads that picture and tags me and my name on his Google+ page? Well, there is my name and picture up on Googles servers and I never agreed to it. Since I don't use Google anything, I never know that my picture is out there. This is why it should be "opt IN" and NOT "opt out".
Yes, I'm being silly NOW, but the fact of the matter is, that this is how the erosion of rights START.
I'm assuming your house and car is in plain view in a public place, meaning you're not protected from that. Maybe if they went into your garage and took pictures without your permission, then you could take them to court. That entire second paragraph is non-sense. You can contact Google and they'll take it down. It's not Google's fault that your nephew took a picture without you knowing and uploaded it. That's his responsibility, not Google's. I guess if I run somebody over in a Ford, Ford should get in trouble and not me.
Originally Posted by Gigatel
Originally Posted by SpacemanSpliff
That it directly violates the 4th Amendment... the amendment that protects our rights to privacy. That's the problem. Let's not forget the Centipad episode of South Park. Sneaking these kinds of breaches of Constitutionally protected rights into the fine print of contracts is something that corporations have taken advantage of for years.Why do you think all contracts and laws are written in legalese? Because the average person is too easily confused by them, so dastardly intentions can be obfuscated by technical language. If laws and contracts were written in simple, everyday conversational English, corporations and government would be completely screwed as people would become insanely outraged at the things being done with their "consent" thanks to the use of fine print backdoor clauses.
Because of these kinds of tracking techniques, I've not had a cell phone in more than a year simply because of all the crap corporations and the government are capable of simply through a cell phone. The biggest perk is that it reminds me of my childhood, when the Earth felt like an ethereal, magical place. I can go out my front door, and unless you're with me... I vanish into the ether... I can go where I please with no distractions and no one knowing just exactly where I am unless they are my present company. Best year of my life... BY FAR!
A public review is public.
My thing is if Google is going to use my likeness in an advertisement, I feel I should get paid for it.
Why would they pay you for it? You agreed to their ToS when you made an account. Do you get paid for the brand of shirt that you bought for advertising it whenever you go out in public? Does your car manufacturer pay you when you drive around town? It just doesn't work like that. Unless Google took your picture off the street and used it, there's really no case you could make for it.