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Actually worsens performance "Executed Bit"? You have to disable it?
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thanks for the guide, worked great. some of the steps i wasn't fully able to complete so if you could translate some of those terms into an asus motherboard that would be great.
regardless great guide tho
post #113 of 3446
Yo r0ach you should add this guide to the OP:

Enable 1000hz in windows 8, 8.1
http://www.blurbusters.com/systemwide-fix-win81-mouse-fluidity/

Windows 8 and 8.1 caps at 125hz for mouse, unless you apply this fix. Tested working 100%, official fix from Microsoft but with a twist to enable it across the whole OS instead of just particular apps/games.
    
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Update for new Intel Chipset Drivers:

***Important Update*** - Intel Chipset Software - The old software (pre-version 10) installed the laggy and useless Intel AHCI driver that was worse than the default Microsoft one. You needed to go into device manager under "IDE ATA / ATAPI Controllers" and click "uninstall and delete driver" to get rid of it to switch back to the normal Microsoft one. With the newer v10+ Intel drivers that just came out, it seems like they stopped including this Intel AHCI driver at all, but it appears they include some USB 3 (xHCI) drivers in the thing now. If you use the newer Intel driver, you probably want to watch your install log and remove anything USB 3 or MEI related if it installs.
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hey r0ach I would like to hear your opinion on your ati card compare to nvidia input lag wise now that youve had it for some time

ATI GPU section coming soon
post #115 of 3446
Scorpion: will I be able to use any mouse (like WMO) in Windows 8.1 and it will use 1000 hz polling rate?
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Looking forward to the ATI update and any other news/info you can bring us r0ach. Wish I could get my latency down further but my asus mobo won't let me disable HPET and I can't get by without flash frown.gif

Any idea if the new so-called wonder driver from nvidia has any latency improvements? I'm still running the 295.73 on my GTX460, but looking to upgrade in the near future and am a bit worried about the newer drivers.
Edited by Buttnose - 4/6/14 at 7:38am
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Looking forward to the ATI update and any other news/info you can bring us r0ach. Wish I could get my latency down further but my asus mobo won't let me disable HPET and I can't get by without flash frown.gif

Any idea if the new so-called wonder driver from nvidia has any latency improvements? I'm still running the 295.73 on my GTX460, but looking to upgrade in the near future and am a bit worried about the newer drivers.

You can disable HPET use in the boot parameters for the Windows kernel. Windows 8 by default already does not use it at all on current PCs unless some program wants to do something with it. You can configure Windows 7 to behave the same if I'm not mistaken.

I tried finding information about how to do that just now, but I'm unsure. You'll have to search yourself if the things I'll mention won't work.

What I found was this blog post: http://blog.bfitz.us/?p=848

The guy mentions that QueryPerformanceCounter() should have a 14 MHz resolution when HPET is used and 3.3 MHz otherwise. It also says that TSC is bad and broken, which is not true, was fixed on current CPUs. TSC is the timer built into the CPU itself. It can be read in an instant as it's just executing a normal CPU instruction.

Here's what my Windows 8 does by itself on my PC where HPET is enabled:



It's firstly straight up ignoring HPET. That can be seen by that 3.3 MHz mentioned at the top. You can see that it uses that TSC inside the CPU through QueryPerformanceCounter() executing at 6 nanoseconds. If HPET is used, that would be super slow. It being super slow might be where the latency comes from when using HPET.

To check what's going on for you and your Windows installation, get the "PCClockTiming" tool on this page (it's close to the end of that page): http://www.satsignal.eu/software/net.htm

It's that tool in my screenshot.

Afterwards, try playing around with bcdedit to set different parameters for the Windows boot and see what changes in the output of that tool. I found this documentation:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff542202%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Try this in an Admin command prompt window:

bcdedit /set useplatformclock no

To revert back to defaults, you'd do this here:

bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock

You can check what you're doing with bcdedit if you simply run "bcdedit" and read its output. It should mention useplatformclock somewhere after you've set it.
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Any idea if the new so-called wonder driver from nvidia has any latency improvements? I'm still running the 295.73 on my GTX460, but looking to upgrade in the near future and am a bit worried about the newer drivers.

I have a hunch that it'll be bad for latency. I bet all those latency problems are there because NVIDIA's programmers are very good at distributing the work they have to do to prepare data for the graphics card onto all CPU cores, while AMD's stuff runs on a single core or something, can't get use out of quad-core CPUs or six-core i7-4930k and stuff.

I bet the FPS improvements are involving improving that distribution of work over the cores and latency won't get any better. frown.gif
Edited by deepor - 4/6/14 at 10:19am
post #118 of 3446
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Edited by Tazzzz - 1/6/16 at 12:02pm
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I've tested it and it indeed gave me latency improvement compared to previous kepler driver (i was using 331.65)

Were you using settings as mentioned in the first post of this thread with this new driver? I mean things like "threaded optimization" set to "off".
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Were you using settings as mentioned in the first post of this thread with this new driver? I mean things like "threaded optimization" set to "off".
Yes in games that i mostly play it doest give fps boost so i set it to off
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