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I reinstalled my OS,formated updated drivers and here's the results




I think its fine now I don't get any error's.. I just affraid to do windows update biggrin.gif

Did you set your DRAM Frequency + Timings (or use XMP) + CPU Core Ratio => Sync All Cores? Only two things that made a difference for me on my Asus Z97-AR. ESEA client has memory leaks at times, which can cause huge DPC spikes :sadly.
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Did you set your DRAM Frequency + Timings (or use XMP) + CPU Core Ratio => Sync All Cores? Only two things that made a difference for me on my Asus Z97-AR. ESEA client has memory leaks at times, which can cause huge DPC spikes :sadly.

Hi when i put Cpu core ratio on sync all cores turbo boost automatically turning on and then i Have 3,9Ghz and later when i Play csgo my processor temperature is high like 60-80~ , I didn't check my DRAM Frequency + Timings bcuz I don't know what it is biggrin.gif
(sorry for english)
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hey guys i am looking for cheap network card for my PC,because i have intels one and it have ALOT of dpc latency spikes (with diffrent drivers)

what do u recommend? It needs to be avalible in EU
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Hi! My mouse polling rate varies from 1 to 1000 hz. Is this generaly legaly?
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its normal,dont worry
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Have some body tried this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de-dhAOPtRM
?
I did for windows 10 and windows 8.1 , didn't notice a big performance or at all. the one thing that I had big boost is not using Intel Chipset 10.1.1.13 , it cause both my laptop and desktop lags and rubber banding in every single multiplayer game, including HellDivers , Heroes of the Storm , Leauge of Legends. as soon as I uninstalled every single left over of the driver for windows 10 I didn't install intel chipset just as microsoft default drivers, for windows 8.1 I installed the normal drivers that comes from Asus Laptop drivers 10.1.1.7 or 10.1.1.9 Asus G751JT . Everything works smooth and no more rubber banding or lag issues that didn't even come from the network, it happened on both computers on 2 different places on different network, both lan and wireless, the only change was uninstalling Intel Chipset, nothing else absolutely nothing else.
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I did for windows 10 and windows 8.1 , didn't notice a big performance or at all. the one thing that I had big boost is not using Intel Chipset 10.1.1.13 , it cause both my laptop and desktop lags and rubber banding in every single multiplayer game, including HellDivers , Heroes of the Storm , Leauge of Legends. as soon as I uninstalled every single left over of the driver for windows 10 I didn't install intel chipset just as microsoft default drivers, for windows 8.1 I installed the normal drivers that comes from Asus Laptop drivers 10.1.1.7 or 10.1.1.9 Asus G751JT . Everything works smooth and no more rubber banding or lag issues that didn't even come from the network, it happened on both computers on 2 different places on different network, both lan and wireless, the only change was uninstalling Intel Chipset, nothing else absolutely nothing else.
intel chipset is just inf and change names on devices its nothing to.do.with dpc or lag windows 8.1 and 10 suffer from lag becuase they install the last drivers thats why 7 is more lag free i still hate the ataport from it i dont know the update that change to storport
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post #2399 of 3402
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intel chipset is just inf and change names on devices its nothing to.do.with dpc or lag windows 8.1 and 10 suffer from lag becuase they install the last drivers thats why 7 is more lag free i still hate the ataport from it i dont know the update that change to storport

It could be just INF , from my experience with Intel if you didn't notice, every driver they made had an big issue. I will give you couple examples.

The intel Network drivers with Ixxx chipset and Intel® 82579V Gigabit LAN Controller when you used windows 7 , 8.1 , 10 with drivers above 19.1 not included you had spikes in DPC every 5 seconds to 10000+. 19.1 was the only driver which worked. I think they fixed it on driver version 20.3 + or something.

Another example is Intel Rapid Storage, windows 8.1 and windows 10 Rapid Storage higher than 12.9.4.xxx any version 13.x and 14.x has APM issue which causes the Hardisk to park every 5 seconds, destroying any hardisk with APM enabled, for example Samsung HD103SJ and Hitachi 7200 and such.

Both examples you can oversee here as I'm not the only one, and some people had their hardisk DIED , but I was smart and realize the 1 hr after installing windows 10 that this should not be like that, and I was with windows 7 till this time skipping windows 8.1 , and it didn't happen in windows 7 no matter what drivers I've used.

I'm telling you the issues you've might missed or didn't see because you didn't use the same hardware, it doesn't mean it pitch perfect no matter how you see it, INF or any other drivers can be destructive and for my friend uninstalling the intel chipset had a better and faster feeling and he's one friend which hard to show him differences.

HDD click (excessive load-unload cycles)
https://communities.intel.com/thread/53305?tstart=0

intel nic drivers 19.3 huge 6000+ dpc latency spike once a few secs
https://communities.intel.com/thread/54594?tstart=0

DPC Latency problems with Intel 82579LM based Network Controller on Windows 8
https://communities.intel.com/thread/43498?tstart=0

Sound ISSUES Windows 10 DPC - Intel LAN drivers
https://www.sysnative.com/forums/windows-10-a/16835-sound-issues-windows-10-dpc-intel-lan-drivers.html

QUOTE " "guys its the intel network driver, anything past 19.1 will cause this issue, i use 18.5 with no issues, install intel driver 18.5 and your dpc latency spikes will go away!"

EDIT : From what I've read it still didn't fixed on the newest drivers (20.3) 20.3 QUOTE "" : :
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still not fixed.

EDIT

if you disable the Intel LAN in Device Manager the problem goes away
I recommend buying a cheap USB adapter to use in the mean time, it fixed the problem here.

EDIT2

Also as a reminder, MANY network adapters are having issues, Intel isnt alone.

I am using a TP LINK with Mediatek drivers for windows 8 and the issue is resolved.

I reinstalled Windows 10 - 5 times before finding out the culprit, HOWEVER the problem didn't show up during my first installations of Windows 10 while I was testing some other softwares and the OS. I think the problem might be related to concurrent connections which I started testing on later installations.

TL:DR It seems to happen when using P2P clients like Bittorrent or while opening many concurrent connections.

Do you need any more examples ?

Intel is really a piece of nothing with drivers, CPUS yes, drivers hell no.


I don't care about Intel network cards, I'm using SolarFlare 6212S and this is the best card anyone possibly have, I'm just hoping and waiting for windows server 2016 which might have included drivers for Windows 10 with RSC support, which will make this card just unbeteable in score of performance and dpc, I can reach over 9.5 Gb speed and the DPC will not even move over 100 . I'm connected using RouterOS as my router and using Optical cables from FiberStore.


I know it seems to you it is just INF drivers, but don't you see that uninstalling both Intel Chipset for both my desktop and laptop fixed the issue ? Maybe it has issue for my chipset P8Z77 ? but if you say it's only INF drivers, why would it cause my chipset to have those weird lags, including my friend with Z87 chipset, is it a problem with the 10.1.1.13 ? So if then it does affect the computer even if it's INF.

One more thing, after I uninstalled the Intel Chipset and reinstalled all drivers again, including the SolarFlare drivers I got new settings which supposed to be there but weren't in the initial install. My friend has the same windows and the same card, we tried to do the same because he did not have the same settings like I have after uninstalling the chipset. but the only difference we did is Roll Back the drivers and not uninstalling, eventually Roll Back didn't restore the settings I have and he doesn't. so Uninstalling those drivers must have an effect even for ALL Hardware. My guess those intel Chipset might fix everyone Rubber Band lag for EVERY SINGLE person on the aspect of drivers. at least using a working safe intel chipset driver for example 10.1.1.7 or something like that. still, not all intel chipset are bad, because on my laptop I'm using the specific for the laptop, even though it's for windows 10 and I'm using windows 8.1
Edited by x7007 - 2/16/16 at 12:59am
post #2400 of 3402
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Have some body tried this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de-dhAOPtRM
?

nope. can u do it and post results? smile.gif

seems to have something to do with gpu, so maybe no perfomance boost in cpu heavy games etc?
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