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Definitely worth it, just make sure you got the GPU(s) to cover it!
5% is noted in the OP - so sounds about right.
The definition of "best" is subjective, when it comes to monitors.
It's a 1080P monitor, it's based on a TN panel (which in all honesty, if you go IPS/PLS, you won't want to come back) and is almost the same price as the QNIX.
It would surprise me if it WASN'T smoother. @1-2ms G2G, with a TN panel and 144hz - it bloody be smoother.
But smooth for me doesn't cut it. As I said, subjective opinion.
I prefer looking at a reasonably fluid image, with absolutely spot on colours and resolution that's just insanely better.

I put my Monitor (the QNIX) side by side to my LG - and the LG looked absolutely great (for colours) but the resolution just blows the LG out of the water. I even downclocked my QNIX, to 1080P to see hwo it would look like - and my god was it disgustingly "blurry".
So yeah, smoother it might be, but "shaved off sides" and "blurred lines" (pun intended) aren't my definition of a "good gaming monitor". Yet again, I'll stress it again, it's subjective.

I've always said this:
I want an IPS that does 1440p @ 120FPS.
Well, I pretty much got that, at an affordable £230 price, rather than a £500 price, I would have to shell out for a BenQ or Asus.

The main difference for something like a ROG swift, is just pixel response times and strobe capability. Those allow you to have motion blur measured by like a millisecond or two, instead of ~10ms minimum for a 100hz screen (with extra because of pixel responses etc especially on ips)

but they are super super expensive, like i said maybe even £800 on launch which is honestly silly. G-sync/strobe is not worth that much
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The main difference for something like a ROG swift, is just pixel response times and strobe capability. Those allow you to have motion blur measured by like a millisecond or two, instead of ~10ms minimum for a 100hz screen (with extra because of pixel responses etc especially on ips)

but they are super super expensive, like i said maybe even £800 on launch which is honestly silly. G-sync/strobe is not worth that much

yup that's a bit too expensive!
But hey there's always someone that's going to buy it as they have money to blow lol
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yup that's a bit too expensive!
But hey there's always someone that's going to buy it as they have money to blow lol

the guys with sli 780ti classy on water need something to do biggrin.gif

strobe monitors >1080p and also 120hz >1080p will be nice though at any price, get the market a little more on track rather than being stagnated.

I got a 1920x1200 60hz in like 2007, and the standard today is even lower resolution than that at 60hz, we should be driving forward to like 200ppi, 100hz+ instead of sitting around at 90ppi and 60hz, even if many modern maxed games won't be getting near 100fps for most
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the guys with sli 780ti classy on water need something to do biggrin.gif

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Interesting stuff, I'd expected a bigger Performance boost from 8.1 though!

Good work! thumb.gif
 
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Interesting stuff, I'd expected a bigger Performance boost from 8.1 though!

Good work! thumb.gif

cheers bud - but these are the benches you should look at / follow right now:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1480050/new-nvidia-337-50-drivers-battlefield-4-benchmarks-ht-on-vs-ht-off

Will update this thread, once I got my win8.1 results up!
5 to go!
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I was looking for win7 vs win8.1 Benchmarks, PC Games Hardware (Germany) led me to belive that running 8.1 could give +10% FPSin BF4.

Can you post a link to the chopper vid, I can't find it in your threads.
 
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I was looking for win7 vs win8.1 Benchmarks, PC Games Hardware (Germany) led me to belive that running 8.1 could give +10% FPSin BF4.
There is an improvment but it's not 10%.... rolleyes.gif
could be up to that, but right now I'm not seeing that. Via my controlled benches...looks like win 7 might come out on top. I'll have to see when I compile the data
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Hey guys!

I highly suggest you guys take a look at my HT results + win8.1 vs win7 for the new Nvidia drivers:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1480050/new-nvidia-337-50-drivers-battlefield-4-benchmarks-ht-on-vs-off-win8-1-vs-win7
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As far as I can tell - nope.
Just reduces load. No one here has confirmed that there has been ANY FPS drop with HT OFF on their HT-able CPUs
I actually had FPS drop when HT off on Win 8.1 @4770K. You can find it in this thread. It was like 5-10% difference, and CPU was at 100% all the time with HT off.

nice work though
>Hey guys!
>I highly suggest you guys take a look at my HT results + win8.1 vs win7 for the new Nvidia drivers:
>http://www.overclock.net/t/1480050/new-nvidia-337-50-drivers-battlefield-4-benchmarks-ht-on-vs-off-win8-1-vs-win7

new beta drivers are not installing on my win 8.1 distro dunno why, they just crash the system during installation. Gonna wait for WHQL version and take some test.
>I was looking for win7 vs win8.1 Benchmarks, PC Games Hardware (Germany) led me to belive that running 8.1 could give +10% FPSin BF4.
>Can you post a link to the chopper vid, I can't find it in your threads.

only valid for CPU bottlenecked systems i.e. multi-GPU with FPS count in BF4 far more than 100 avg. in typical 64p multiplayer match. And even then it is more like improving smoothness feeling and lowest FPS count.

Also take a note that BF4 mantle patch increased FPS for me by as high as 10-15%. Other NVIDIA users reported very significant improvements in performance too.And i did not test win7 performance after that patch. It might be on par with win 8.1 now.
>a Toyota Prius for the day to day mundane tasks
sorry, but **** is **** in every scenario. Corolla would be better example for this purpose biggrin.gif
>They wouldn't care about 120hz vs 144hz, nor would they care about the "colours" of the panel, nor even if it's LED or plasma (lol). Heck they would choose a CRT if they could accept the resolution.
Disagree here completely. Its not like some1 hardcore gamer or not, its just the difference in perception. You need to take into consideration ppl with deviation in perception of colors. And this is huge part, its not like 1% population its alot more. For example my perception of colors has the deviation which allows me to make some colour derivatives with fewer ingredients, than normal eye (brain) will do. Therefor my perception of colors is different by default and even if me and normal person will observe the same image with same calibrated colors and we will agree on naming of each cast of each color, if we will change image we will see it differently again, because i will see more casts of exact same source colors. I am not sure if i could express my idea well enough though. Another effect, in which such deviation results is that from certain color quality of the screen (start from good modern TNs) i can not see the difference between IPS and TN at all. They both look okish for me. I mean i can see that colors are bit different, but I can not say that one is better than another. On the other hand lots of my friends can clearly see 'better' colors on IPS/VA monitors compared to TN, while they are not able to consistently tell me if they see difference between 60Hz and 120Hz and they'r playing FPS games for years like me...
>People that compete in BF4 tournaments aren't what I consider pro gamers either.
100% true with current state of netcode and overall amount of randomness competitive BF4 is a joke.
>Hate to say it, but most of them are just 1 kit, 1 weapon based people, that tend to "own" in normal games.
disagree on this completely. In BF4 all guns are very easy to use. You mastered one => you know how to decently control all. Also if you are used to 5v5 domination but never played 64p rush, ofcourse you will do not so good at the beginning, since BF4 is more about positioning urself than about shooting. Shooting in this game is so handicapped (especially in CQB) that any kid can master it np.
>If you were a true gamer, you would pick up any weapon in any game and be able to do well with it.
not going to happen in real world. You will have to pass through learning stage first in every game. And ppl who already passed that stage will be always better than those, who did not yet.
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