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I just read in a forum on another site that in order for trim to work correctly on a Samsung SSD you have to have the Samsung Magician Toolbox software installed. Is this true?

I have the 840 Pro hooked to an Intel SATA3 port on a Sabertooth Z87 with Intel 12.8.0.1016 RST drivers installed.

I have not ever installed the Magician Toolbox software or any other software that is on the CD that came with the drives. I have not even looked at what is on the CD.
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As long as you're using Windows 7 or 8, which your rig specs say you are, you have working TRIM on your PC and SSD. Whoever posted that idea in another forum is just plain wrong.

The Magician software manual TRIM feature is mainly for PCs that do not have an OS that has TRIM support, like Vista and XP. You can use the manual TRIM feature on Windows 7 and 8 too, it works and does no harm.

Say your Samsung SSD is filled near its capacity, which makes it harder (but not impossible) for the Windows 7 TRIM to work. The Magician TRIM feature is useful in that case.

Where do people (not you) come up with these crazy ideas. They still seem to think that SSDs are some exotic, temperamental thing that will fail in the blink of an eye. rolleyes.gif
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Thanks, I just wanted to make sure!

+Rep for you!
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Thanks! You can download the Magician software here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/MZ-7PC064B/WW

IMO it is worth at least trying once to see if you like it. You won't need it all the time, but if you want to update the firmware or do a secure erase of your Samsung SSD, you can. Plus you can run the Optimizer since you can't have TRIM without it, ya know... rolleyes.gif What forum was that anyway?

If you do try it, know that it will put an entry in the Windows start up program list. You can just disable or delete that entry, makes no difference, except it won't be running in the background all the time (why do they still do that?) It also stays in the background if you run it manually, you'll find it in the Taskbar list, where USB flash drives appear when you choose to eject them.
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It was in a hardware section of a flightsim forum.

Thanks for the link, I will probably install it and take a look.
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As long as you're using Windows 7 or 8, which your rig specs say you are, you have working TRIM on your PC and SSD. Whoever posted that idea in another forum is just plain wrong.

The Magician software manual TRIM feature is mainly for PCs that do not have an OS that has TRIM support, like Vista and XP. You can use the manual TRIM feature on Windows 7 and 8 too, it works and does no harm.

Say your Samsung SSD is filled near its capacity, which makes it harder (but not impossible) for the Windows 7 TRIM to work. The Magician TRIM feature is useful in that case.

Where do people (not you) come up with these crazy ideas. They still seem to think that SSDs are some exotic, temperamental thing that will fail in the blink of an eye. rolleyes.gif


For TRIM..... you need OS support + driver support + SSD support.


Windows 7 TRIM and Magician TRIM are the same thing...... they mark what pages are dirty and the SSD cleans them up in its own way.
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