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Hi guys, I know that there are a few really similar threads to what I'm asking around, but I wanted to make one tailored to my concerns thumb.gif

The retailers I can buy from are:
www.memoryexpress.com
www.ncix.ca
www.newegg.ca

I currently have an i7 3770k.
I will soon be purchasing a Cooler Master V700 power supply due to its great reviews. I know that I do not need 700w but after some time in the PSU forum, I've determined that it is a solid Seasonic KM3 based unit with less instances of coil whine and semi- fanless operation. Low noise and no coil whine are VERY important to me. I'd return any product in an instant if I heard coil whine.

ANYWAYS, onto video card discussion!
I am currently sporting a Sapphire HD5850 1GB. I just sold it about 10 minutes ago for $80 though thumb.gif
So when I mail this tomorrow morning, I'll be out a video card!
When I game, its mostly Team Fortress 2 and emulated Wii/PS2 games that I stream on Twitch.tv. That being said, I do not have high graphic demands, but would like something current that would run a new game at acceptable fps if I were to try one.
I game at 1080p, and use two 1080p displays at a time, but only 1 with a game on it.

So with my budget being $150-$200 CAD, and a reasonably silent unit in mind, I was considering the Asus GTX650 Ti Boost. Quiet and better than my HD580. I also know that this is a very silent card. I just worry that the performance may leave me feeling like an idiot in a few months when I suddenly decide to try a more demanding game. Currently $130 after rebate.
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=81930&vpn=GTX650TIB%2DDC2OC%2D2GD5&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1306

But now I see the Radeon HD7xxx series has some sweet sales on right now.
Would it be worth it to stretch my budget and borrow some money to pay $224 (after rebate) for an Asus HD7950? Or would someone in my shoes not really benefit from this? And are 7950s bad for soil whine or noise?
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=81960&vpn=HD7950%2DDC2%2D3GD5%2DV2&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1306

Thanks for reading guys!

edit: Also, concerning the 3 games included with the purchase of a 7950, what do you guys think my chances of selling them off for $20 per game would be? are they provided to us by AMD in the form of steam codes?
Edited by Dragon-Emperor - 10/14/13 at 2:15pm
post #2 of 16
just get this . . .

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84902&vpn=AX7950%203GBD5%2D2DHV5E&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1306

that Asus is good but uses 3 slots. about twice as fast as the 650Ti. i am maxing out BF4 at 1080 (ULTRA and 4MSAA) with the 7950 at stock paired with an i7 SB 4.5GHz.

i am sure you can turn that into a 7970 GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1382633

the game codes can be used either in steam or origin. the codes need to be used by Dec 31, 2013 i believe. i gotten 5 games so far (7970 and 7770) and 3 games pending with my 7950.
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just get this . . .

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84902&vpn=AX7950%203GBD5%2D2DHV5E&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1306

that Asus is good but uses 3 slots. about twice as fast as the 650Ti. i am maxing out BF4 at 1080 (ULTRA and 4MSAA) with the 7950 at stock paired with an i7 SB 4.5GHz.

i am sure you can turn that into a 7970 GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1382633

the game codes can be used either in steam or origin. the codes need to be used by Dec 31, 2013 i believe. i gotten 5 games so far (7970 and 7770) and 3 games pending with my 7950.

Thank you for the reply smile.gif

I am not very familiar with "PowerColor", but aside from saving a few dollars, and disregarding the huge size of the Asus, is the PowerColor an overall better card? I do know that both have voltages unlocked at least.
From my reading, the PowerColor PCS+ card has a great and silent cooler, but this model here has practically no reviews, so I am worried about how loud it may be, given that I would be ordering it and exchange could take a while if I find it loud.
I can price match the Asus locally, and return it no problem if it's loud, but if there's a reason to avoid it, I would be very curious to know.

I kind of regret selling my HD5850 already as there are not so many threads/reviews to help decide on 7950s as there are 7970s doh.gif
It also seems like the 650 Ti Boost would be a downgrade from the HD5850 too, so that's off the table. ugh.
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If you don't mind the space needed by the Asus, then it will work. i have not used an Asus gpu, so i can't speak for its performance and quality. That Powercolor 7950 will be at least twice as powerful as your 5850. I recommend you oc your cpu to about 4.2GHz. My Powercolor 7970 that i bought last March has not given me any problems but my gpus are always at stock. One thing to note, they are cheaper than other brands thus will not have the best cooling solution like having heat sinks on the vrms. Bu that stock cooler on it will do the job just fine. As far as it being loud, all these small fans will make noise at around 55% (tolerable). it is around 70% that they do get loud - imo.
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for silent coolers here are a couple the asus dcii and pcs+ . they are probably the best in terms of low noise. asus dcii is the quietest cooler. but its a 3 slot design. pcs+ is a 2 slot design

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=81960&vpn=HD7950-DC2-3GD5-V2&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1306

here is a hardocp asus hd 7970 dcii review . the cooler on asus hd 7950 dcii is the same. so the feedback is relevant to you.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/11/asus_hd_7970_directcu_ii_video_card_review/9#.Ul0i_FP3x8E

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=85706&vpn=AX7950%203GBD5-2DHPP-&manufacture=PowerColor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131458&Tpk=PCS%2b%20HD%207950

newegg ca has the pcs+ hd 7950 at $220. put yourself on autonotify and grab it when it comes back in stock. user reviews are very positive . here is an old launch review.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/35033-powercolor-radeon-hd-7950-pcs/?page=12
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post #6 of 16
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Thanks for the replies guys!

I ended up buying the Asus HD7950 DCii V2
And while it looks cool and all... IT IS NOT QUIET D;
But maybe I just got a bad one?

The fans aren't going super fast and its not the loud sound of rushing air, its more like how my previous video card became after a few years.
It's like... how one of those old film projectors sounds? It's like the bearings in the fans are already shot.
This is so disappointing...
I will go to the store and exchange it to see if I just got a bad unit.
If the problem persists, then I'll have to consider a different card.
I wish that bearing click wasn't there. My ears are top-level sensitive to this kind of thing. If only Noctua made GPU coolers.
post #7 of 16
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I just returned and installed another and.. IT'S EVEN WORSE.
This time its the other fan on the card and it sounds like a death-ray from a cartoon show.
Looks like I'll be returning this and getting a different brand, or maybe a different card all together.

Here's a video I took to share the 'noise' with others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auvcltUDp9Q
I know better than trying to grease it myself when I can just return it and choose something else. So that's what I'll do. I'll research another card that's in my local retailer, www.memoryexpress.com, and hopefully exchange/purchase tomorrow.
Edited by Dragon-Emperor - 10/15/13 at 4:02pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon-Emperor View Post

I just returned and installed another and.. IT'S EVEN WORSE.
This time its the other fan on the card and it sounds like a death-ray from a cartoon show.
Looks like I'll be returning this and getting a different brand, or maybe a different card all together.

Here's a video I took to share the 'noise' with others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auvcltUDp9Q
I know better than trying to grease it myself when I can just return it and choose something else. So that's what I'll do. I'll research another card that's in my local retailer, www.memoryexpress.com, and hopefully exchange/purchase tomorrow.

it sounds pretty quiet to me.... maybe you have unrealistic expectations? the reference coolers are even louder. do you not use headphones or is the computer right beside your head?
post #9 of 16
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It's not the movement of air sound that bothers me.
I think that the volume needs to be turned up on your end to hear what I am, maybe?
It's a ticking noise. Like, an obvious mechanical defect.

I just setup a system for my brother with an Asus 7850 and no ticking.
3 weeks back setup a system with an Asus GTX 770 and no ticking.

I'd be happy with just the sound of air.
Well, now I am considering spraying it with WD40 or purchasing a HD7850 or a gtx650 ti boost once again.

and no, I do not use headphones redface.gif
Edited by Dragon-Emperor - 10/15/13 at 6:21pm
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i had my volume set to maximum lol
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