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Various popular Content Management Systems (CMS) seem to have gone through several version changes over time. So what was once bad may be good. And vice versa.

My goal is to implement a CMS for some new websites I want to build and am curious what people think of the current state of WordPress, Drupal, and the like. There seem to be major love and hate for each popular CMS. I am sure there always will be as well. But, then again some people hate CS6 and prefer some obscure alternatives that have little support. And I don't want to get into obscure CMS as they don't have much crowd support or plugins/modules. I would rather be part of a decent community. Further, I don't want to use something hard to use. It should be intuitive and fluid in setup. While that is somewhat subjective, there is no doubt that some things are hard to use, simple to use, logical, etc.

I would very much appreciate some feedback with the current state of the CMS market and what your thoughts and recommendations are.

Thanks!
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Various popular Content Management Systems (CMS) seem to have gone through several version changes over time. So what was once bad may be good. And vice versa.

My goal is to implement a CMS for some new websites I want to build and am curious what people think of the current state of WordPress, Drupal, and the like. There seem to be major love and hate for each popular CMS. I am sure there always will be as well. But, then again some people hate CS6 and prefer some obscure alternatives that have little support. And I don't want to get into obscure CMS as they don't have much crowd support or plugins/modules. I would rather be part of a decent community. Further, I don't want to use something hard to use. It should be intuitive and fluid in setup. While that is somewhat subjective, there is no doubt that some things are hard to use, simple to use, logical, etc.

I would very much appreciate some feedback with the current state of the CMS market and what your thoughts and recommendations are.

Thanks!
Pick a server-side language, then pick a CMS. All the popular languages have good pre-made CMS solutions. I posted a few for the most popular languages in one of the fairly recent threads in 'web coding'.

If you go with PHP, I recommend Habari. The problem with wordpress (in my opinion) is that the designers weren't great system designers when they started and the whole canned CMS idea wasn't very common either, so lots of mistakes were made. Despite the program design problems (seriously, it really is spaghetti code), wordpress took off among non-coders because it worked well enough. The popularity of plugins and the dependence of these plugins on features NEVER changing makes fixing Wordpress' issues hard/impossible. Habari is a much more recent CMS and employs better a better (and object-oriented) approach to CMS architecture. Habari may have you rolling your own theme (though it's nowhere near as bad as designing wordpress themes in my opinion) or heavily modify an existing theme.
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Wordpress is one of the easiest and best CMS for a starter. There are more than enough sites that can vouch for that. However i must agree it is not the most pretty piece of coding ever.

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Pick a server-side language, then pick a CMS. All the popular languages have good pre-made CMS solutions. I posted a few for the most popular languages in one of the fairly recent threads in 'web coding'.

If you go with PHP, I recommend Habari. The problem with wordpress (in my opinion) is that the designers weren't great system designers when they started and the whole canned CMS idea wasn't very common either, so lots of mistakes were made. Despite the program design problems (seriously, it really is spaghetti code), wordpress took off among non-coders because it worked well enough. The popularity of plugins and the dependence of these plugins on features NEVER changing makes fixing Wordpress' issues hard/impossible. Habari is a much more recent CMS and employs better a better (and object-oriented) approach to CMS architecture. Habari may have you rolling your own theme (though it's nowhere near as bad as designing wordpress themes in my opinion) or heavily modify an existing theme.

I took a tour on the Habari website. I saw several links that had no active links and several spots where pictures were supposed to be, but were no longer pulling a picture. Further, when exploring a CMS I like to see good examples of websites that run Habari as well as some gallery shots of the CMS. There were no gallery shots and their list I found with sites that use Habari was outdated. I clicked on several site links that were redirected to new sites. To me that feels lackluster and not promising for an active community.
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The site for Habari is using the Adequately free css template without referencing it which is kind of shady. Its hard to answer the question, which CMS is best, without knowing what you are planning to develop. Joomla has strengths in the many areas and I favor it because I have been cleaning up messy addon's on the side for a little over 5 years. Drupal is neat looking but I have only met a few people who rave about it and I have seen even less sites on the web with a fully featured drupal environment.
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Yes it is smile.gif Aslo you can edit your code through admin panel
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