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120mm Fans for push/pull with Monsta Radiator

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I am about to order a 480 Monsta Rad for my upcoming Enthoo Primo build and I have to decide what fans to use. Here are my requirements:
1) I want to go with a push/pull setup
2) no LED fans and the colour it'' not important since I might paint the fans
3) I want to have a good noise/performance ratio, but I am rather flexible on this point.

This said, my idea is to go with 8 Gentle Typhoon AP-1, but I would like to get some feedback from you guys. In particular:
A) Do you have other 25mm thick fans to suggest, or should I stick with Gentle Typhoon fans?
B) Instead of using 25mm thick fans, I could use slimmer fans (like Phobya G-silent slim 15mm thick fans) with a 10mm shroud. Would this be better than using 25mm thick fans without shroud?
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Gentle Typhoons are great performers on rads with respect to their noise levels per cfms, but I wouldn't spend the money on good fans like the Gentle Typhoons only to paint them.

Unlike most other fans, GTs are precision balanced with tiny weights - that's a huge part of what makes them special - that once taken apart you'll likely never get them back just like they were. Once they have been painted and no longer perfectly balanced they'll probably work ok, or maybe one or more will be more out of balance and make more noise than the others, but it's a pretty safe bet that you're probably not going to enjoy all the expected benefits of those Gentle Typhoons that you paid for. They also are held on by a tiny retaining ring that even when being very careful trying to remove, is infamous for flying off untold distances only to never be seen again.

If you're daring and careful and go that route anyway, I do hope you take pictures of each step and post a log of how it came out for you. I'd like to see it.

All that said, if you're going to go push-pull on that monsta you have a lot of 120mm fans to choose from that will yield excellent performance, so it really shouldn't be that hard to find ones that match your color scheme to start with, but if you're going to paint the fans regardless then might as well just get Swiftech's Helix fans (AKA Gentle Typhoon knock-offs) or maybe some white GeLid silent 12's where the fan blades just pop on & off and I suspect you might be able to die them instead of paint them for even better looking and performing results.

That's my 2 cents anywho.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/15/13 at 1:15am
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Thanks for the feedback, Unicr0nhunter. The point you raised (performance loss when painting fans) is actually one of the reasons I am reconsidering my initial choice of going with AP 15, so we agree on that.
I could actually build a radiator cover with fan grills for this radiator and forget about fans colour. However when in the future I'll add a top radiator I'll have to face the very same problem.

On a side note, AP 15 are cheaper than I remembered. At €12.79 a piece they are much cheaper than NB e-loop (~€17) and not so different from Swiftech Helix (€10). I mentioned Phobya G-silent slim fans that are €8.98 a piece, but I cannot find any results/reviews on them.

I thought again about point B (25mm thick fan without shroud vs. 15mm thick fan with shroud). I couldn't find any data on this and actually some results at martinsliquidlab (link) point to the fact that the benefit of using a shroud is very dependent on the radiator used. Without any actual data on the use of shrouds with the Monsta I don't think I can base my decision on this point
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I use the Koolance FAN-12025HBK and have yet to find anything else anywhere close to the price that compares performance wise. They're not quiet at full speed, but undervolt very well. They also have more static pressure than almost any other 25mm thick fan available, certainly more than anything within 1000rpm or so... And at $9 a pop, you can afford to lose one or two to painting errors.
   
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