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Hmm Titan is 799€ atm. do you guys think it is going to drop when the R9 290X releases?
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Hmm Titan is 799€ atm. do you guys think it is going to drop when the R9 290X releases?
Nope it might drop in December in time for Christmas but i definitely think it will drop in price before Jan 1st. 2014
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Where are these people? 90% of Steam is 1080p, people still buy 1600x900. You're running around posting on every thread that 290X is superior at higher resolutions yet have no actual benches to back it up, plus, even on OCN, running 4K resolutions is far from the norm? I'm not sure I understand your reasoning?
you most be stock in 2005
there is non 1600.900 in the market even 1080p is a bad choice when you can have 1440p it $300
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Hmm Titan is 799€ atm. do you guys think it is going to drop when the R9 290X releases?

I hope Titan never drops. Lol

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you most be stock in 2005
there is non 1600.900 in the market even 1080p is a bad choice when you can have 1440p it $300

Many people are still running 1600x900. I know a friend with 3 900 on a single 7870, and loves his set up.

Edit: forgot to add that yes, they are still being sold like hot cakes at micro center, otherwise I wouldn't see a big pile of new 22inch 1600x900 monitors for 79.99 every time I visit the store. So yeah, they are in the market.
Edited by LaBestiaHumana - 10/16/13 at 4:27am
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If it performs around 780/Titan level, it's going to blow for 4K anyway.

Toms did an article and SLI Titans on Crysis 3 managed 37 FPS

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pq321q-4k-gaming,3620-6.html

PCPer did a review with Tri-SLI Titans on Far Cry3 and couldn't break 60 FPS

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-High-End-GPUs-Benchmarked-4K-Resolutions/Far-Cry-3-999-Level

Anyone who thinks any of this generations cards are ready for 4K are going to be bitterly disappointed...
And what do you base this scientific knowledge upon? Comparing SLI with 384 bit bus and 3gb vram to a 512 bit bus and 4gb vram. Sorry but ignorance in your case may = bliss, but I'd rather wait for actual reviews or owner testing to make such a claim.
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And what do you base this scientific knowledge upon? Comparing SLI with 384 bit bus and 3gb vram to a 512 bit bus and 4gb vram. Sorry but ignorance in your case may = bliss, but I'd rather wait for actual reviews or owner testing to make such a claim.

1) Titans have 6GB

2) Bus width alone doesn't really mean anything. What you want is high bandwidth (why do you think manufacturers prefer a bigger bus late into the life cycle of a gddr generation and a smaller bus early?). The 290X only has ~11% more bandwidth than the Titan.

Besides, the review in the OP has resident evil 6 both at 1080p and at 1600p 4xMSAA. The difference between the cards at 1080p was 0fps and difference at 1600p was 1fps in favor of the 290X, most likely due to rops or random variation. Such a mind blowing difference.

Besides, at its rumored max memory oc (6ghz) the 290X has about the same amount of bandwidth as a max memory oc titan.

Lots of bandwidth and memory is great and all but you gotta have the SPs to use them.
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1) Titans have 6GB

2) Bus width alone doesn't really mean anything. What you want is high bandwidth (why do you think manufacturers prefer a bigger bus late into the life cycle of a gddr generation and a smaller bus early?). The 290X only has ~11% more bandwidth than the Titan.

Besides, the review in the OP has resident evil 6 both at 1080p and at 1600p 4xMSAA. The difference between the cards at 1080p was 0fps and difference at 1600p was 1fps in favor of the 290X, most likely due to rops or random variation. Such a bind blowing difference.

Besides, at its rumored max memory oc (6ghz) the 290X has about the same amount of bandwidth as a max memory oc titan.
Your credibility has faultered quite a bit. And bus width is huge in performance. Do we need to remind you haw 256 bit buses fell behind the 384 bit in higher resolution and high AA?
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And what do you base this scientific knowledge upon? Comparing SLI with 384 bit bus and 3gb vram to a 512 bit bus and 4gb vram. Sorry but ignorance in your case may = bliss, but I'd rather wait for actual reviews or owner testing to make such a claim.

He has a valid point. If SLI titans get 35 fps on a particular game and 290X is equal in performance to a titan, having 512bus is still not gonna get you more than an extra 5-7fps. Which means performance will still be kinda low.
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R9 290X at 6.0 GHz is like clocking Titan's memory at 8.0 GHz to get the exact same amount of bandwidth.

R9 290X Total Theoretical Bandwidth : 6.0 GHz * 512/8 = 384.0 GB/s
GTX Titan Total Theoretical Bandwidth : 8.0 GHz * 384/8 = 384.0 GB/s
R9 290X Total Theoretical Bandwidth @ 8 GHz : 8.0 GHz * 512/8 = 512.0 GB/s

Titan requires 34% more memory clock to keep up with R9 290X at same bandwidth.
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He has a valid point. If SLI titans get 35 fps on a particular game and 290X is equal in performance to a titan, having 512bus is still not gonna get you more than an extra 5-7fps. Which means performance will still be kinda low.
But then we can claim as Alatar does that it is 20% faster than a Titan. Regardless of actual end performance.
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