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As you know, the third and fourth generation mainstream processors released by Intel (3xxx and 4xxx) are thermally inefficient due to use of TIM instead of solder between the die and IHS.

While it's possible to delid with relative ease, it just seems like Intel is throwing sticks in our spokes and forcing us to void our warranties in order to achieve top overclocks.

Do you believe this trend will continue for future mainstream CPU's from Intel? Will the Intel Tuning Plan still work for de-lidded CPU's?




I've been considering downsizing to a more power efficient CPU and the products on the market today simply make me cringe due to delidding being a REQUIREMENT for good overclocks.
    
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I dont understand how nVidia comes into this?

And yes it will continue because its saving millions of dollars on Intel's side.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion667 View Post

As you know, the third and fourth generation mainstream processors released by Intel (3xxx and 4xxx) are thermally inefficient due to use of TIM instead of solder between the die and IHS.

While it's possible to delid with relative ease, it just seems like Intel is throwing sticks in our spokes and forcing us to void our warranties in order to achieve top overclocks.

Do you believe this trend will continue for future mainstream CPU's from Intel? Will the Intel Tuning Plan still work for de-lidded CPU's?




I've been considering downsizing to a more power efficient CPU and the products on the market today simply make me cringe due to delidding being a REQUIREMENT for good overclocks.

You need to change the title and "good overclock" will be entirely subjective, the over clockers will make up a minute% of total sales of 3rd/4th gen Intel cpu. I can get 4.7 with my 4770k with the lid on, de lidding is not a must.
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I dont understand how nVidia comes into this?

And yes it will continue because its saving millions of dollars on Intel's side.

nor do i.......i thought nvidia made GPU's....i get what your saying tho.
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I wasn't aware you HAD to delid for a good OC.

And yeah, nvidia != Intel.
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Just because it isnt AMD, doesn't mean it Nv wink.gif
     
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the overclocking community is quite small. hell, even most people that purchase k sku chips don't overclock them. i.e. I just overclocked a 3570k this weekend for my buddy. he's had that cpu for over a year and had no intentions of even learning how to overclock it in his lifetime with it. though we're willing to shell out a lot more money, we're still simply a much smaller piece of the pie overall. also, if they wanted to screw us, they'd stop making k sku's and extremes. no more unlocked chips = no more easy overclocking. getting to 4.2 is literally a multiplier away right now.
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Oh crap I meant Intel, changing the title LOL.
    
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All ill say is this, if its easy to delid, which I also think it is, whats the issue? I have never had a CPU die on me, I have put CPUs through a lot of torture, dropped them/thrown them etc, and Ive never had one break. The delid is dangerous in terms of exposing the die, and also youve got a hammer near it, but if done right youll be able to pick the lid off the PCB without it going flying or having a hammer being waved like a crazy person. So they save money we lose a little OC performance comparing delid with CLU against Soldered lid. Lose warranty but its not a big deal.
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Skylake will be the last lga processor so after skylake thy will fix it.with bga cpus
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