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The Ivy E chips run hot and they have solder. The cores are just getting too small

Ivy-E 6 cores run cooler than haswell quads at same voltage though and cooler than sb-e too

I was CPU bound in bf4 beta when i tried it with 4770k@4.6ghz, was stuck with frametimes dipping to 15-20ms+ quite often though FPS meters don't show that
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I gave up on Broadwell long ago. Wake me up when Skylake is out.
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why not. im here ready to let them take my money. but not with this kind of small increase.

So buy an 8P system?
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Sandy Bridge was a decent increase in performance then Ivy Bridge was a modest increase and Haswell was a more modest increase. Will Broadwell be a small increase? Probably. Then Skylake.
I will probably upgrade to Haswell and then wait for Skylake or later to upgrade again.

I'd prefer Intel to take as much time as they need and deliver decent performance increases rather than bringing out new chips with only modest increases. I think Haswell has really excellent performance and you won't actually need an upgrade for quite a while. Want something new get a new GPU. Broadwell will be here when it's ready. It's better if they take more time and get it right rather than rushing in mediocre new products.
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Here is what what happens if you expect Broadwell LGA in, for example February '14, plotted against recent releases:




One can clearly see that the last drop is sudden, making the release too early (against Haswell).



However, if you try something like September '14:





The graph looks very natural.

Hence, it makes perfect sense to see Broadwell After Sep '14 and this news is completely immaterial, at least for desktop users.


PS. This is original content, don't try to find a source, other than a source for the dates.
Edited by fateswarm - 10/17/13 at 1:56am
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post #66 of 69
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That's not news at all. We weren't expecting them early '04. We were expecting them late '04.

Did anyone really think it'll be early '04? Come on. It makes sense.

Plot a graph of releases. It makes sense to be after Sep '04.
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Here is what what happens if you expect Broadwell LGA in, for example February '04, plotted against recent releases:

One can clearly see that the last drop is sudden, making the release too early (against Haswell).

However, if you try something like September '04:

The graph looks very natural.

Hence, it makes perfect sense to see Broadwell After Sep '04 and this news is completely immaterial, at least for desktop users.

It's 2013. You set your time machine 10 years too late.
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PS. This is original content, don't try to find a source, other than a source for the dates.
The huge typo you made on your time machine?
Edited by Bitech - 10/17/13 at 12:02am
post #67 of 69
nehalem lasted me just over 4 years..looks like ill go near that duration again with ivy bridge at this rate..
     
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So buy an 8P system?
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It's 2013. You set your time machine 10 years too late.
The huge typo you made on your time machine?

I'm too old. 10 years for me are nothing. Thanks, I'll correct it, but no rep for you, you were being sarcastic.
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