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After a few weeks of going over pretty much every high end laptop this planet has to offer, I've found the cost/performance ratios of these two laptops and what they offer to meet my needs but on two different levels. However, I have a big problem; they are two different beasts, and I need help figuring out what would be the smarter decision (especially with the amount of money involved).

The first is the Sager NP9380-S, and the specs are as follows:

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9380s-clevo-p370sm3-p-6109.html

- 17.3" FHD 16:9 120Hz "MatteType" 72% NTSC Color Gamut Sager 3D Screen (1920x1080)
- 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4800MQ (2.7GHz - 3.7GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache)
- Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 780M (4.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU010)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S822AP)
- 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD097)
- 6X Blu-Ray Burner + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (SKU - ODD083)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI94)
- No Operating System (Already have a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs

Total Price: $2196.08 (after 3 percent cash back and free shipping, not including tax)


Why this laptop?: First off, it's still at the peak of being considered a laptop and can actually last for a few hours on a full charge. It has a good design, 5 USB ports (going to be using a lot of HDDs, and when I want a third screen, I can get a USB adapter), thunderbolt port will come in handy, and has overall good specs for the price. I will be adding in my own mSata 128Gb drive and another 1TB 7200rpm dirve, as well as an eventual 16GB of more ram. Also, the potential to upgrade with another 780m down the line, as well as upgrading the CPU to the extreme model is a good option to have if needed later.


Second is the Sager NP9570, and the specs are as follows:

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9570-clevo-p570wm-p-3595.html

- SAGER Autumn Sale!!! - $50 OFF When you spend $1350.00* or more per system! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes)
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 120Hz "MatteType" 72% NTSC Color Gamut Sager 3D Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - S1D556)
- Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, 3.2-3.8GHz (32nm, 12MB L3 smart cache - 6 cores / 12 threads) (SKU - S2N123)
- Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 780M (4.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU010)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S822AP)
- 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD097)
- 6X Blu-Ray Burner + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (SKU - ODD096)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI98)
- No Operating System (Already have a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - WTY099)

Total Price: $2705.33 (3 percent discount, free shipping, tax not included)


Why this laptop?: It's a desktop on the go. The 780 seems more than capable for video editing/basic 3D model work, and I can always throw another one on in the future. There are tons of ports and three HDD bays (no mSata unfortunately though). The power of the 6-core CPU can crush the other laptop (or so it seems?) and it will most likely beat out my desktop in most areas. Real 1080p video editing work seems like a sure thing in any scenario. The price is a bit higher, over 600 more (especially with tax).


The question remains, is it a smart idea? I have a desktop with an i7-2600k (clocked at 4.6Ghz)/Nvidia 780/16Gb of ram, and it seems to mostly do everything I want to throw at it without stuttering or lag. I mainly edit short films, do after effects projects, burn many DVDs/Blu-Rays, and shoot and edit weddings, music videos, events, and more. Some of you may already be thinking just stick to the desktop, but I am not home often and am out very often, and certain projects typically have a few hours of downtime that I hate wasting. So, which laptop would be a wiser choice? Every time I make a decision, I keep going back to the other one. Perhaps there is another, more cost efficient laptop I have missed though? Some input would be great, given that this is a lot of money (but needed for my constant work flows). I am not so interested in gaming, so you guys don't have to factor that into too much consideration. Thanks for the input!
Edited by Cheska - 10/16/13 at 12:19pm
    
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post #2 of 8
The 9380 is the smarter choice. The 4800qm is no slouch. Your not going to get much out of gaming from a hexcore yet.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2500K+%40+3.30GHz

http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4800MQ+%40+2.70GHz&id=1927
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I don't understand why you'd want a 3930k in your laptop when you don't even have one in your desktop. If you already have a desktop. I wouldn't buy a second one. I vote the 9380-s
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I completely understand your logic. My reasoning comes from the fact I will be upgrading my mobo and cpu with next years i7 brand (rumored to finally have an eight core), and then my laptop would still be at least in somewhat the same league. Also, the laptop I pick has to last me for at least the next year years of work. Based on my current loads, I can only assume they will become a bit more complicated as time goes on. If the i7-4800mq seems to be adequate enough to do that, I can give in to that. I've also been listening to some other people online, and I can also see where it would make sense to just have a laptop for the work and occasionally rendering out while I'm in the field, and bring my bigger projects home for the final stretch. With the money invested though, would the i7-3930k be a smarter purchase, however? Sorry for all the mixed thoughts, haha, as if I could just do some tests on these laptops, I probably would have already figured out my mind. Thanks for the help so far guys.
    
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The i7 4800mq is only going to be a bit slower than your i7 2600k. When i say that it is slower is only because of your overclock. Otherwise it'd be faster.

- The thunerbolt port can work with monitors on the first laptop.

- Also get msata on the first one.

Vote is still the first one.
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The 9380 is the better option here. If you didn't have the space for a huge desktop, but needed equivalent firepower then I'd point to the 9570. The 9380 is like your desktop, but with a GTX 680 in place of the 780 you have now. So, slower, but still really fast regardless.

I've just switched to the 2760QM and this thing is fast... seriously. You talk about number crunching? I can't begin to imagine what the 4800MQ is like... ._.
     
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Thanks for the help. I'm actually in a new pickle now, however. I was set on getting the Sager 9380, but after going through a new meeting with my film team, within the next month or two we will start shooting on 4K Sony Cams for some projects. The final products will be rendered in 1080p, but my question now is if the 9380 will even be able to even handle the footage. From what I've read elsewhere online, editing 4K on a laptop is silly, but I at least want to be able to edit rough cuts without any serious stuttering and at the very least finish the project on my desktop for the final render/effects. Thanks again so far you guys.
    
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Thanks for the help. I'm actually in a new pickle now, however. I was set on getting the Sager 9380, but after going through a new meeting with my film team, within the next month or two we will start shooting on 4K Sony Cams for some projects. The final products will be rendered in 1080p, but my question now is if the 9380 will even be able to even handle the footage. From what I've read elsewhere online, editing 4K on a laptop is silly, but I at least want to be able to edit rough cuts without any serious stuttering and at the very least finish the project on my desktop for the final render/effects. Thanks again so far you guys.

Eh, in a video game, i think a gtx 780m would get about 10-12 fps depending on the game, not sure how that calculates towards video editing.
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