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I asked because a friend of mine has his CPU over clocked and it made a difference in his benchmarking for his GPU. Although, he's got both both over clocked. Still improved GPU benchmarking better at stock speeds of the card. But that's irrelevant to me. I just wanted to know if it would be easier or better an you answered that for me smile.gif Thanks.

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. In benchmarking yes, an overclocked CPU will improve your score even if you dont OC the GPU. I thought you meant if you overclocked your GPU, it would limit how much you could OC your CPU and vice versa. My bad redface.gif
    
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Oh sorry, I misunderstood. In benchmarking yes, an overclocked CPU will improve your score even if you dont OC the GPU. I thought you meant if you overclocked your GPU, it would limit how much you could OC your CPU and vice versa. My bad redface.gif

Oh no, it's cool lol
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No worries Scotty, I am subbed to this thread so anything you need just pop it in smile.gif

I forgot to ask, is there any other settings I need to turn off, like the turbo boost, or smart connect or anything of that nature? I read that leaving the turbo on can cause it to overclock itself higher and cause issues. I asked in the MSI forums and I swear.. Seems like over there if you're not a pro, they won't even comment back. Can't stand that. Everyone was a noob at 1 time or another.
post #24 of 58
just turn off spread spectrum (probably in advanced area)
turbo is part of your overclock, it should allow your CPU to drop back to 3.4GHz when not under load, cooling and saving power etc.
the overclock is in effect while turbo is being used.
    
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Good to know thank you! Last question before I get home and try this out at 4.2. What should I use as a "short term" stability test before I let prime 95 run? (I.e asus (something) suite, Aida 65)
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I found Battlefield 3 and Grid 2 would let me know if my overclock was working smile.gif
I ran prime and aida a bit to see but it usually lets you know pretty quickly if its not happy

however, you can go a couple of weeks before it decides to BSOD

stability for me is using it as my gaming rig, which is normal use for me ,stress testing is not everyday smile.gif
    
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Try using x264 and XTU. Pop over to the haswell O/C guide thread for info. You should have a good read through it, there's a lot of useful info!

Is your user name on the MSI forum the same as here? I'll pop on over in a bit and see if i can answer some of your questions.thumb.gif (o/c section or board section?)
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Try using x264 and XTU. Pop over to the haswell O/C guide thread for info. You should have a good read through it, there's a lot of useful info!

Is your user name on the MSI forum the same as here? I'll pop on over in a bit and see if i can answer some of your questions.thumb.gif (o/c section or board section?)

I'll have a look thru it. My name on msi forums is Scott McClain. Thanks!
post #29 of 58
Question over there is a bit vague so i'll post here.

Update BIOS to latest if not already done so.

Try setting the following in BIOS:

Base clock: 100mhz
Base clock strap: 1.0
CPU PCIE PLL: LC PLL
Filter PLL: Enabled
CPU Ratio Mode: Fixed
Legacy Tweaking: Disabled
Ring Ratio: 33
DRAM Reference clock:auto
DRAM reference frequency: 1333mhz
XMP: Disabled
Memory fast boot: Disabled
Digital All Power: Vdroop offset control: 100%
VCCIN: 1.9v
Core voltage mode: Override (can change this to adaptive later)
Core voltage: 1.2v
Ring voltage mode: Override (can change this to adaptive later)
Ring voltage: 1.15v
DRAM voltage: Set to whatever the kit is designed to run at. 1.5v, 1.6v, 1.65v etc
Internal VR OVP OCP Protection: disabled
Internal VR Efficiency Manager: disabled
Everything else left on auto.

Boot with x42 core multi.

Install x264 benchmark (read the 'read me' file as you also need to install the avsynth package that comes with it).

Install XTU.

Install BlueScreenViewer.

Run x264 benchmark and see how far you get when you BSOD. (4 runs, 2 passes each, % counter on the bottom left of the window. You need to keep an eye on this!). when you bsod drop the core multi. Repeat till you find a stable core multi, i.e, pass x264.

Run XTU Bench. If it crashes, drop core multi by 1 and reboot. Take note of the BSOD code using Blue Screen Viewer after reboot. (101 vrin/vcore, 124 vrin/vring from my findings). If it completes but drops cores (enable 'active core count' on the graph) , increase vcore by .005v and repeat.

If it doesn't crash, run XTU stress for 9hrs. As soon as you've started XTU stress, use the snipping tool in the startup menu and take a full screenshot with XTU and HWM on screen, make sure both the clock down at the bottom right of the monitor and the start time of XTU are visible. If it doesn't crash then we're good. If it does, drop the core multi, reboot, open BSV, again take a note of the BSOD code but also take not of what time it crashed. Try again.

Once this is stable then you can start thinking about upping the core.

My preferred method:

Leave settings at current stable O/C (what ever core multi you found to be stable using the above method - baseline).
Increase core multi by x1. Run x264. (should BSOD).
Leave vcore and increase vrin by .025v. Repeat noting progress in x264 every time. (will tell you if you've gone past the point of increasing stability, if this happens leave vrin and start increasign vcore by .005v). If you get to 2.1vrin, put it back down to 1.9v, increase core by .005v and repeat process.
Once stable in x264 repeat steps for XTU 1st running bench then stress although this time leave vcore if you fail and increase vrin in .005v increments. If you end up .1v over what x264 passed, drop vrin back down, raise vcore by .005v and repeat.
Once stable in XTU stress, raise core multi by x1 then repeat the process all over again. This should get you stable (i'm 100% rock solid for gaming etc doing it this way) and at the lowest possible vcore & vrin for that multi. (give or take .002/.003v).

Follow these steps and we should be able to get you started. This will take a LOT of time to do right. (it took me the best part of 3 full weeks 24/7 to get my core to max!).

Read through the haswell O/C guide, this will probably help you out as well. I gather from your threads/posts you've not done this yet! thumb.gif
post #30 of 58
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Originally Posted by BakerMan1971 View Post

I found Battlefield 3 and Grid 2 would let me know if my overclock was working smile.gif
I ran prime and aida a bit to see but it usually lets you know pretty quickly if its not happy

however, you can go a couple of weeks before it decides to BSOD

stability for me is using it as my gaming rig, which is normal use for me ,stress testing is not everyday smile.gif

Yeah.. I thought real world tests are the best smile.gif I'm hoping when I finally get started, I won't have to wait a couple of weeks to see if it crashes or not LOL.
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