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post #21 of 26
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I dont think it actually works that way, 290X is a brand new chip with new architecture - more transistors and processing units etc - its way more complex, and therefore harder to produce with lower yields when manufactured, more bum chips they either bin or throw away which costs money. Plus they probably want to recoup their R&D costs as well.

Your words could be true, if 290X is a really brand new architecture. But, it is not.

290X could be an advanced GCN, but not a new architecture.There are just a few developments on size and power consumption. If HD 7000 series and 270X, 280X are GCN 1.0, 290X and 260X are GCN 1.1. Therefore, R&D cost is not much for 290X and 290.

I think Hawaii XT - 290X will be 550$ and Hawaii PRO - 290 will be 450$.

But we know from Catalyst drivers that there will be also a Hawaii LE (280XT or 290LE). It may come with 3gb 384 bit instead of 4gb 512 bit. I think it will be around 350$.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by karamel View Post

Your words could be true, if 290X is a really brand new architecture. But, it is not.

290X could be an advanced GCN, but not a new architecture.There are just a few developments on size and power consumption. If HD 7000 series and 270X, 280X are GCN 1.0, 290X and 260X are GCN 1.1. Therefore, R&D cost is not much for 290X and 290.

I think Hawaii XT - 290X will be 550$ and Hawaii PRO - 290 will be 450$.

But we know from Catalyst drivers that there will be also a Hawaii LE (280XT or 290LE). It may come with 3gb 384 bit instead of 4gb 512 bit. I think it will be around 350$.

Right cause designing a complete new die cost no money. The price of graphic cards are determined by what people feel they are worth. If you feel it is not worth it, do not buy it, but other people are ok with it, none of your concern.
post #23 of 26
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The price of graphic cards are determined by what people feel they are worth.

Exactly. Therefore, if people start to feel they are not worth anymore; retailers must discount sale price. We should be satisfied with much lower sale prices, if we want everyone to able to buy them.
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I know from reading around and from experience that macmall, shopblt, and aztecomputers are fairly trustworthy. I have heard of provantage as well. Has anyone tried to order from these sites?

99% of my purchases are thru Provantage. They are a great company to deal with especially customer support thumb.gif
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post #25 of 26

It all goes back to, why sell it 400 when you can sell it for 550 thus increasing profit margins while maintaining the same number of sales. And yes it indeed is harder to jam pack more transistors in a die. Much harder now that Moore's Law is starting to look obsolete. Because quantum mechanics simply put.


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I recently read somewhere that Intel is planning on still hitting Moore's law for quite a few years - 7nm and 5nm are looking doable.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/162376-7nm-5nm-3nm-the-new-materials-and-transistors-that-will-take-us-to-the-limits-of-moores-law
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