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I said this before but Nvidia does not react to AMD. The only time that they will lower their prices is after there next new line is out. Sometimes not even then, they will just add game bundles instead to make it more attractive while still saving more money by buying games at a savings in bulk to maximize profit. One thing they are good at is putting out propaganda about possible price droppings to keep you waiting. I learned this a while back with my 580. So if you've been holding off to buy another Nvidia card you don't need to wait anymore just buy it.
     
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I said this before but Nvidia does not react to AMD. The only time that they will lower their prices is after there next new line is out. Sometimes not even then, they will just add game bundles instead to make it more attractive while still saving more money by buying games at a savings in bulk to maximize profit. One thing they are good at is putting out propaganda about possible price droppings to keep you waiting. I learned this a while back with my 580. So if you've been holding off to buy another Nvidia card you don't need to wait anymore just buy it.

Or get an AMD if you plan to get the same for CF much later. NVIDIA won't do you the favor of having a discount. Most likely.
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Or get an AMD if you plan to get the same for CF much later. NVIDIA won't do you the favor of having a discount. Most likely.
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I said this before but Nvidia does not react to AMD. The only time that they will lower their prices is after there next new line is out. Sometimes not even then, they will just add game bundles instead to make it more attractive while still saving more money by buying games at a savings in bulk to maximize profit. One thing they are good at is putting out propaganda about possible price droppings to keep you waiting. I learned this a while back with my 580. So if you've been holding off to buy another Nvidia card you don't need to wait anymore just buy it.

Wow I need some prozac or something you guys demoralyse meeee frown.gif....both of you are probably right, nVIDIA as a company is cocky...they're full of it!

But I'm a Geforce guy, waiting for the price-drop fairy still, I just CAN'T fork $400 CDN for a 770... too much...I'd rather grab 2 x 760s for $520...I'd like SLI 770s, but not for $800..no thx...so I have to settle either for lesser GPUs (dual 760s) or a single GTX780...and it's THERE that I might jump on the 290x...especially if the GTX780's price doesn't drop...that would insult me madsmiley.png

anyway, AMD, don't overheat or blow eardrums...I'm here waiting for your best shot! sniper.gif
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Wasn't demeaning anyone your taking it personally. I'm just pointing out what I know about Nvidia and dropping prices from past experience and this news doesn't surprise me.

I've owned a 580 - 680 - and 690 currently and will be in my second rig. Love Nvidia 3D Vision and AMD still can't touch it. Still actively watch 3D movies. Going to keep an Nvidia system for some time to come. I played the waiting game and it never panned out.

I'm giving AMD another try again for fun. No loyalty here.
     
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Don't forget not dropping the price is not always against the consumer. For people that buy early and buy again soon after they re-sell, they love it. They will resell with only around 20% lost, with AMD they may lose more than 50% in a few months.
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they want to keep the trend. why not?
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Don't forget not dropping the price is not always against the consumer. For people that buy early and buy again soon after they re-sell, they love it. They will resell with only around 20% lost, with AMD they may lose more than 50% in a few months.

Say that to the 4870X2 that I got $440 for around 4 years after owning it.
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Don't forget not dropping the price is not always against the consumer. For people that buy early and buy again soon after they re-sell, they love it. They will resell with only around 20% lost, with AMD they may lose more than 50% in a few months.

Yes,

They definitely help the folks that quickly step up to new cards at release by keeping a good resale value on existing cards..that way, the upgrade is cheaper for them...but for people that upgrade every two or three years, that is not as relevant...
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There's funding the underdog and there's funding good technology, and AMD is way behind lately, especially in CPUs. And AMD aren't saints either, e.g. they are part of the x86/x86-64 duopoly of Patents on CPUs.

But don't worry, they may all die when the end of the common silicon era comes, around 7nm/after 2017 when they have no idea what to do without reaching the ultimate quantum mechanical limits of current technology.

If AMD wasn't busy with it's HSA design I'd agree. Yeah I realize it hasn't produced much so far, but from how I understand the theoretical performance boost of exposing x86 threads directly to the GPU's many cores it could improve IPC in the longterm beyond what Intel is putting out. We'll have to see the finished product and not it's samples every of it's staged process. Llano -> Trinity -> Richland and so on. Intel isn't stupid, they know the potential threat of having such a chip so they are putting GPUs on their CPUs to match AMD in the technology wars. Intel has them beat in the performance right now, but this game is always changing and sometimes it changes almost instantly.
Edited by SpeedyVT - 10/27/13 at 9:56pm
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