Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › How can I get a truly smooth experience when gaming(no tearing with no input delay)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

How can I get a truly smooth experience when gaming(no tearing with no input delay)

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
I'm just at wits end with this. It seems like there's no true way to not have tearing, and to have no mouse delay. Is this mostly due to me only having a 60hz monitor?(because I hear people saying they never had tearing issues with their 120hz monitors).

But example scenarios

1. All traces of vsync off, no mouse input delay, tearing to the point where 60fps sometimes even appears choppy.
2. In game vsync or adaptive vsync on, no tearing, very noticeable mouse delay that I can't stand playing with.

and then I experimented with frame rate limiters, limiting to 59fps with vsync on/off, and I don't remember exactly, but I think I found combination where there was no delay or tearing, but the fact that I was at 58-59 fps was very noticeable when I would move left to right and I could see the game periodically jump/stutter in the same intervals. It just confuses me how console can achieve this(not saying they run at 60fps no tearing, but GTAV on 360, while I know it's only 30fps, appears noticeably smoother than it should with no tearing), and I see no way for me while playing on PC to achieve this. Unless I'm missing something here, or someone has insight they could share it'd be much appreciated.
Edited by venomblade - 10/17/13 at 4:10pm
post #2 of 6
No tearing issues here on 144hz monitors. thumb.gif

I think your best bet would be to try PrecisionX and use the frame limiter there to say 65-70fps. That'll allow it to play above 60fps but not enough to show much screen tearing.
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

No tearing issues here on 144hz monitors. thumb.gif

I think your best bet would be to try PrecisionX and use the frame limiter there to say 65-70fps. That'll allow it to play above 60fps but not enough to show much screen tearing.

Ah thanks for the recommendation. I've been using Nvidia Inspector to limit specific games FPSs, but I never tried to do a framerate that's a tad above my monitor's hz. I did find a solution for one game, by capping the framerate to 59.9 fps in the games own .ini's, and turning on the in game vsync, no tearing, and no mouse delay. I've no clue how, not sure if that's supposed to happen, but I'm going to try to replicate it for every game that I feel needs it. Thanks for the Precision recommendation, if Nvidia Inspector doesn't let me cap to 59.9, I'll give Precision a try, thanks +rep.
post #4 of 6

How can I get a truly smooth experience when gaming(no tearing with no input ...

No real good way to eliminate mouse lag with Vsync. A higher refresh reduces the likeliness of seeing screen tear however.
jfreeZr
(11 items)
 
hadronGTX
(6 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770K @ 5.2GHz EVGA Z87 Classified EVGA GTX 980 ACX2 2666MHz CL12 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
2x Samsung EVO RAID0 Phase Change Win8.1 64 Catleap 27" 2560x1440 110Hz 
PowerCaseAudio
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 Primochill Wet Bench Core3D + Sennheiser HD595 + iBasso Amp 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel 3770K EVGA Z77 Stinger EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti ACX 2x Vertex3 SSD 480GB RAID0 
CoolingCase
Corsair H60 EVGA Hadron Hydro 
  hide details  
Reply
jfreeZr
(11 items)
 
hadronGTX
(6 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770K @ 5.2GHz EVGA Z87 Classified EVGA GTX 980 ACX2 2666MHz CL12 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
2x Samsung EVO RAID0 Phase Change Win8.1 64 Catleap 27" 2560x1440 110Hz 
PowerCaseAudio
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 Primochill Wet Bench Core3D + Sennheiser HD595 + iBasso Amp 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel 3770K EVGA Z77 Stinger EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti ACX 2x Vertex3 SSD 480GB RAID0 
CoolingCase
Corsair H60 EVGA Hadron Hydro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 6
RadeonPro has a frame rate control and FPS limiting feature, I'd imagine Nvidia inspector or another program would have something equivalent.

EDIT: I did a bit of googling, and it looks like parts of RadeonPro sometimes works on Nvidia cards. If you could get DFC + a framerate cap + (optional) DirectX triple buffering working with Nvidia's built in hardware buffer, you'd be in smoothness heaven biggrin.gif
Edited by brucethemoose - 10/17/13 at 10:40pm
Bruce
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4670k Asus Z87 Pro HIS 7950 IceQ X2 2x2gb + 2x4gb DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM OCZ Agility 4 128GB PNY 240GB LG Blu Ray Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Hyper 212+ with extra fan Windows 10 Education x64 Shimian QH270 @110hz Medieval Dell OEM Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 V1 Antec 300 Black Illusion  Logitech G400s Xonar ST 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Fostex T50rp with BMF mod Archer T9E Wifi adapter 2x Yate Loon D12SL-12D 120x38mm fans Thermalright TY-143 fan 
  hide details  
Reply
Bruce
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4670k Asus Z87 Pro HIS 7950 IceQ X2 2x2gb + 2x4gb DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM OCZ Agility 4 128GB PNY 240GB LG Blu Ray Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Hyper 212+ with extra fan Windows 10 Education x64 Shimian QH270 @110hz Medieval Dell OEM Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 V1 Antec 300 Black Illusion  Logitech G400s Xonar ST 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Fostex T50rp with BMF mod Archer T9E Wifi adapter 2x Yate Loon D12SL-12D 120x38mm fans Thermalright TY-143 fan 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 6
What mouse are you using? You need to make sure to never run SLI/Crossfire as both introduce extra input lag.

Also need a low input monitor like the VG248QE or a XL2420TE.
^_^
(13 items)
 
 
For Sale: 3930K
$120 (USD) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2600K ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 Gigabyte Windforce 7970 OC Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
CoolingMonitorPowerCase
Noctua D14 Asus VG248QE Corsair TX 750 V2 Corsair 650D 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
G400, MX518, G500, G5, IMO 1.1, IME 3.0, Deatha... fUnC 1030, QCK+, QCK Heavy, PureTrak Talent Whi... X-Fi Titanium HD Sennheiser HD555 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 2.4GHz Intel HD 4000 8GB 256GB SSD 
Monitor
2880 x 1800 Retina 
  hide details  
Reply
^_^
(13 items)
 
 
For Sale: 3930K
$120 (USD) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2600K ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 Gigabyte Windforce 7970 OC Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
CoolingMonitorPowerCase
Noctua D14 Asus VG248QE Corsair TX 750 V2 Corsair 650D 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
G400, MX518, G500, G5, IMO 1.1, IME 3.0, Deatha... fUnC 1030, QCK+, QCK Heavy, PureTrak Talent Whi... X-Fi Titanium HD Sennheiser HD555 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 2.4GHz Intel HD 4000 8GB 256GB SSD 
Monitor
2880 x 1800 Retina 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › How can I get a truly smooth experience when gaming(no tearing with no input delay)