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Such is your opinion. I have mine. This type of extortion has no place in our society and people who make these sort of extorions should be removed from society ... PERMANENTLY ... and the more brutal the better. People that write programs like these aren't "hardened criminals" who have nothing to lose. If society made an example of a few of them, by doing public executions, I bet there would be a lot less of them. Remember, these aren't your average 7-11 robbers, these are intelligent, white collar dweebs who would most likely crap themselves if the penalty for this sort of BS was death.

Statistics show that the death penalty is ineffective. It won't stop them if they can't get caught.

EDIT: Before anyone brings up the "well what if it happened to you?!" argument, I would hate them yeah, but I shouldn't allow my emotions to get in the way of letting statistics do all the talking for me.
Edited by Edge Of Pain - 10/30/13 at 7:14pm
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post #292 of 321
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Statistics show that the death penalty is ineffective. It won't stop them if they can't get caught.

I need to find the article I read but it basically said $250M plus had been collected from fake AV scams over the years with the bulk of that going to people in Russia. Even if you catch them in the act its unlikely "authorities" will do anything about it, it's part of the countries GDP.
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post #293 of 321
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Statistics show that the death penalty is ineffective. It won't stop them if they can't get caught.

Those statistics only show that for "blue collar crime", not white collar crime. Which is basically what I said in my last post. Further, I don't care about "preventing crime" so much as I am about stopping it. Murderers and Rapists are a dime a dozen. There are THOUSANDS of murders and rapes world-wide every single day. Any dweeb with a penis and gun who can do their acts. You don't run across these sort of issues with this "extortion program" every single day. Further, it takes a lot more skill and resources to do this. By putting down the 1 or 2 dogs that do this, you prevent it from happening for decades.

Bottom line, with the death penalty for this sort of thing, you will run out of criminals who do this MUCH FASTER than you will run out of murderers and rapists.
post #294 of 321
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Those statistics only show that for "blue collar crime", not white collar crime. Which is basically what I said in my last post. Further, I don't care about "preventing crime" so much as I am about stopping it. Murderers and Rapists are a dime a dozen. There are THOUSANDS of murders and rapes world-wide every single day. Any dweeb with a penis and gun who can do their acts. You don't run across these sort of issues with this "extortion program" every single day. Further, it takes a lot more skill and resources to do this. By putting down the 1 or 2 dogs that do this, you prevent it from happening for decades.

Bottom line, with the death penalty for this sort of thing, you will run out of criminals who do this MUCH FASTER than you will run out of murderers and rapists.

I see, I guess we have to test out your hypothesis and gather statistics to see if you're correct. But... I still have a moral issue with killing thieves to show that theft is wrong.
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I still have a moral issue with killing thieves to show that theft is wrong.

And I don't. That is where we ultimately, philosophically, differ.
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^ This. I basically uninstall toolbars for a living.

Sadly this. Not a lot of interesting work as of late.
   
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Yes I have been doing that too, plugging the external drives in on Sunday night to run the backups and unplugging them in the morning. But a couple Bud's watching the Broncos might make me forget... Just looking for a local back up solution that is "fool proof" from a fool. Only my system has an SSD for the OS, my wife's and kid's systems do not, but I did not get the impression that this malware restricted itself to C: in fact it even goes after networked shares.

If you go into device manager you can mark a volume as offline (and hence removing the active drive letters)

Im not sure the command to run offhand, but im sure its scriptable to bring them on/offline on command as a part of your backup script !

[edit: BAM]
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732026.aspx#BKMK_CMD

I still use a USB3 backup drive thats disconnected... Its 100% safe from VIRUS, POWER SURGES, CORRUPTION, and USER ERROR.

Most backup solutions fail at least 1 of those 4.
raid 1 is a joke for end-users (only always on server environments benefit).
Lightning storm take out your Desktop + backup NAS, oops!.

The only one that works better is ONLINE with UNDO history, but thats expensive for 5TB.... and slow as molasses.
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Looks like this is being spread as an attachment to unsolicited emails. System restore may work (if enabled), and secure backups.

Maybe it's time to send a message out to your users:

Dear Users,

If you get a strange email with an attachment that says "please open me", DO NOT open it you dumb@sses.

Regards,
The IT guy

I'll never understand why IT guys act like this. If it weren't for people doing stupid stuff like this, your college, your knowledge wouldn't be useless and you wouldn't have a job.

Hackers and coders keep our jobs useful.
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I'll never understand why IT guys act like this. If it weren't for people doing stupid stuff like this, your college, your knowledge wouldn't be useless and you wouldn't have a job.

Hackers and coders keep our jobs useful.

Well I hope most of us are working on becoming coders and hackers ourselves, no? Who else populates this forum? (Besides IT guys) thumb.gif
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I'll never understand why IT guys act like this. If it weren't for people doing stupid stuff like this, your college, your knowledge wouldn't be useless and you wouldn't have a job.

Hackers and coders keep our jobs useful.

Not true. iT is far more than removing viruses from end users pcs. Designing, updating and supporting the network infrastructure is a much larger side of. hardware support, and still very broad. That's not including application and web development. I'd argue you don't need to go to college to do desktop support.
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