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I'd like to upgrade my current build, and wanted to know what you all think about my current parts list.

Usage:

Games, programming (including compiling large projects), virtual machines and circuit layout/modeling software. I'd like to overclock, and I need to be able to drive 2 monitors at HD+ resolution. I'd like to be able to use my sound card (while still having bandwidth for my graphics card/cards), although I'm not married to it (I've been considering an external DAC). I'd like to water-cool the entire system, but don't really want to buy 2 expensive GPU blocks (maybe I will though).

Parts that I currently own and might like to continue using:

System:
Corsair AX650 power supply
Gigabyte GTX 760 graphics
ASUS Xonar Essence STX sound card
3 Samsung hard drives (Spinpoint F1/F3)
Pioneer Blu-ray burner

Cooling:
Nickel EK-Supreme HF waterblock (I bought this for my socket 1156, but was told it would work with 1150)
XSPC RS360 radiator
XSPC Rasa GPU block
5 AP-14 Fans

Parts that I am considering:

System:
Case Labs Merlin SM8
Intel i7 4770k
Gigabyte UD4H
Gigabyte UD5H
ASRock Extreme6/AC
ASRock Extreme9/AC
*Edit* ASUS Maximus VI Formula
ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
MSI XPOWER
16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400MHz kit
32GB G.Skill Trident X 2400MHz kit
GTX 760 (second)
EVGA GTX 780 Classified Hydro Copper
other GTX 780 (w/ waterblock)
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD

Cooling:
Koolance RP-1200/1250 pump/reservoir
EK-BAY RES Dual pump/reservoir
AP-14 Fans (more)
[more radiator] - opinions wanted
[MB water-block] - depends on MB choice
[GPU waterblock] - depends on GPU choice
[fittings/piping/coolant] - opinions wanted

I don't really want to spend over 2000 on new parts, and I'd love to spend less, but I also don't want to cut any corners where performance is concerned. I also don't want TOTAL overkill for my usage. What is the best computer you can think of with some permutation of these parts (or others)? Thanks!
Edited by imblind - 10/19/13 at 3:50am
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WOW you can't go wrong with that Merlin SM8, that's for me best case at this moment on market.
But I see you choose good and expensive components. What you think to invest little more for X79.
Not 3960X or 4960X, but one 4930K with PCI-E Interface 3 is much much stronger in multi thread and only little slower in single.
He can give you even same speed if you OC him and almost 4960X in multi tread under OC with good cooler.
Really worth. You save almost 400$ in CPU Power, same number of cores 6, Quad Channel memory, ...
You can think about that, search little, I think for high end RIG as you plan 4930K is best choice, really...
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WOW you can't go wrong with that Merlin SM8, that's for me best case at this moment on market.
But I see you choose good and expensive components. What you think to invest little more for X79.
Not 3960X or 4960X, but one 4930K with PCI-E Interface 3 is much much stronger in multi thread and only little slower in single.
He can give you even same speed if you OC him and almost 4960X in multi tread under OC with good cooler.
Really worth. You save almost 400$ in CPU Power, same number of cores 6, Quad Channel memory, ...
You can think about that, search little, I think for high end RIG as you plan 4930K is best choice, really...


I've thought about that a lot. In the end, I'm pretty set on Haswell. For one, I don't think I would be able to see the difference between 8 and 12 threads in the programs I use. For two, I didn't like to see that the x79 CPUs actually perform worse than Haswell in games. Third, X79 adds a lot more price (CPU/MB) and I'd rather spend my money on the SSD/graphics.

Thanks for the response though!
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For motherboard I Find the Extreme amazing and have many features I love , find them awesome but I still find the new Maximus VI fomrmula Best motherboard because of the on board audio but you got better one Xonar STX however it is not for games and the On board audio will be better there
but what is best thing to make you consider the MAximus VI formula is being capable to water cool it out of the box no need to buy a block for the mobo

The gpu Single Gtx 780 will perform less then Sli 2 gtx 760 so it is up to you

For ram I say 16GB 2x8GB to see if that is enough stay with it , if it is not then go for 2 more dimms and get 32gb


The is i7 4770k is best Value for a guy who do work/gaming ( productivity ) the 2011 socket pretty expinsive but for more of a heavy user sort of 3D rendering and more towards workstation

the Extreme have very powerful design compared to other mobo so for Sli it is the best if you are not going for 2011

But that is the Extreme for you if you are not extreme overclocking guy don't buy it you will be throwing you $ away
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Go with i7 4770K and a Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H very good and powerful combo, as said before socket 2011 is not worth it.
I agree with fido go with 16 gb ram if you see its not enough you can add another 16gb later (i doubt you will need it).
About the VGA Sli 760's beats a Single Titan but also ends up your upgrades if you dont change vga frequently go with a single 780 and when you see the need add another one, if you upgrade gpus once a year go with sli 760's.
The AX650 is a pretty solid unit though take a look at XFX650/750 they are half the price and very good performance (made by seasonic) or take a look at Lepa G Series they are gold and modular psu's (made by enermax) . Both cheaper and at the same level of the Corsair AX series.
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For motherboard I Find the Extreme amazing and have many features I love , find them awesome but I still find the new Maximus VI fomrmula Best motherboard because of the on board audio but you got better one Xonar STX however it is not for games and the On board audio will be better there
but what is best thing to make you consider the MAximus VI formula is being capable to water cool it out of the box no need to buy a block for the mobo

The gpu Single Gtx 780 will perform less then Sli 2 gtx 760 so it is up to you

For ram I say 16GB 2x8GB to see if that is enough stay with it , if it is not then go for 2 more dimms and get 32gb


The is i7 4770k is best Value for a guy who do work/gaming ( productivity ) the 2011 socket pretty expinsive but for more of a heavy user sort of 3D rendering and more towards workstation

the Extreme have very powerful design compared to other mobo so for Sli it is the best if you are not going for 2011

But that is the Extreme for you if you are not extreme overclocking guy don't buy it you will be throwing you $ away

Thanks for the suggestions, I think the Formula makes a lot of sense (I didn't realize it came with water blocks installed). As for graphics cooling, I've decided I'll probably go with 2 EK-Supremacy universal blocks and a bunch of heatsinks
Edited by imblind - 10/19/13 at 3:53am
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Do the math how much they cost,
Coz the hydro solution from EVGA is amazing and very overclock able chips they chose the best gpu's for that series
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