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Hey guys.

Lets start this by saying im cheap. Im still running a gtx 465 from 2 years ago that i got dirt cheap, and its been a flawless purchase even after getting an infinite amount of advice to the contrary. Right now i am seeing some amazing deals on 7950's, to the point of me wanting to upgrade even when the games i play dont currently call for it.

Here is my question, i am a huge MMO fan (wow especially). MMO's are basically all that i play, along with a few RPG's like fallout and the like. I am looking for someone that has owned AMD and Nvidia products in the last 1-2 years and that also plays WoW. I am looking for honest replies on how your experiences have been on both cards in regards to wow, or mmo's in general.

Im stuck here because my computer runs so good (literally never had a bsod, driver crash, NOTHING, has ran 100% flawless since the day i built it) i am weary of upgrading. I have read many benchmarks that put nvidia cards above AMD for mmo's, blizzard games especially. Not only that, but this may sound ignorant but AMD has always had a stigma of having bad drivers, i cannot say anything about this because the last amd card i had was an ati lol. Another thing ive gathered from reading thousands of product reviews on the 7000 series cards (not kidding) is there is a decently high amount of people that have experienced crashes or artifacting, something i have never experienced on my gtx 465.

I DO want to upgrade eventually and now seems like a decent time because of the deals on the 7950's, and with wildstar on the horizon and i actually might play BF4 if my friends pick it up too. I would just like to know from people that have had AMD and nvidia cards in the past 1-2 years give their comments as i dont want to make the wrong decision, especially when my PC has ran so well these past two years.

This was longer than i meant to type, but hopefully i can get a good discussion going here about amd vs nvidia and the experiences you have had with both products. I have decided i cannot trust reviews on sites like newegg because half the time its probably user error, id much rather ask in a forum like this.
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Can't speak to WoW, but I can speak to fallout new vegas. I've been playing it on a 460 and find it quite frustrating. The game looks MUCH better with the graphics turned up, and the mods that make it look really good I can't even run because they hit the GPU even harder. I've got to run it at fairly close to minimum rez to keep the FPS high enough during complex combat. Especially indoors.

I'd say do it.
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Anyone else had an amd and nvidia card in the past year or two, i know your out there!
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Hi, i have had a GTX 480 for almost 4 years that died the other day... maxed Fallout games really well, played WOW, but nothing major....

I have 7770 crossfire, it had issues with stutter in a few games, but drivers fixed all of that, a great running setup with low noise and heat.

I cannot speak for the 7900 series cards as i have never owned them.
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Putting my feet up and subbed to thread....amd vs nvidia was mentioned.

My 2 cents, had less driver issues with nvidia but am a ATI/AMD fanboy...WoW addict for years.. looking for what I have found stable, go nvidia
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I've had a gtx 460 1gb for 3 years and I recently upgraded to a hd7970 then a 1440p monitor.
I can tell you that I clearly see the difference in speed with my 7970, but driver from my amd card are not as good as my old NVIDIA one...
I got some odd thing with my dual screen setup, sometime when I move from main monitor to the second one, the mouse will transform into 5 dot instead wierd, but it piss me a bit from AMD...
Also I got a lot more tearing with my 7970. I never got one with my old gtx 460 but now I do have alot with amd.

The fps per dollar really charmed me, thats why I went with ATI, but even if my fps are higher (quality too), but the experience isnt really better because of the s*** load of tearing that I get...
So that being said, I would get a Nvidia card, even though the ATI card are so cheap right now. With wow you'll get more fps anyways...
If you stay on the same resolution, upgrading is not as worth it as if you would buy a bigger monitor.

So far, biggest upgrade I've done to my pc is 1440p monitor and my ssd...
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I've had a gtx 460 1gb for 3 years and I recently upgraded to a hd7970 then a 1440p monitor.
I can tell you that I clearly see the difference in speed with my 7970, but driver from my amd card are not as good as my old NVIDIA one...
I got some odd thing with my dual screen setup, sometime when I move from main monitor to the second one, the mouse will transform into 5 dot instead wierd, but it piss me a bit from AMD...
Also I got a lot more tearing with my 7970. I never got one with my old gtx 460 but now I do have alot with amd.

The fps per dollar really charmed me, thats why I went with ATI, but even if my fps are higher (quality too), but the experience isnt really better because of the s*** load of tearing that I get...
So that being said, I would get a Nvidia card, even though the ATI card are so cheap right now. With wow you'll get more fps anyways...
If you stay on the same resolution, upgrading is not as worth it as if you would buy a bigger monitor.

So far, biggest upgrade I've done to my pc is 1440p monitor and my ssd...

I've been using a 7970 for the past year now (or whenever they first came out) and apart from some initial driver teething issues my experience has been brilliant. I've been using v-sync with triple buffering enabled and have experienced no screen tearing. If your fps are well above your screens refresh rate your gonna get screen tearing with any card.

Edit: Just wanted to note that I have owned a GTX 560, GTX 570 and a GTX 580 as well. I would say the installation of Nvidia's drivers is a bit smoother but AMD are on the ball now and doing well with them. Also owned several 5870's. Not much SLI or crossfire experience though so can't speak for that.
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Since MMOs aren't very demanding, extreme amounts of AA would be the determining factor IMO. If it has some kind of Nvidia proprietary 'whatever' get an Nvidia card, otherwise get an AMD card. If you get a newer card the extra VRAM could help. This is all under the assumption you are primarily playing MMOs.

 

I've had both an HD 7970 and a GTX 670. Both were great cards. Only gripe with the AMD card at the time were bad performance in a few brand-new blockbusters of the time. Other then that I actually preferred it performance wise.

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MMOs are more CPU demanding then GPU so with a 7950, you'll be fine with any mmo with eye candy (if your CPU lets you)

even with a 7950/ 670/760 or any card, if your CPU can't pull its weight you won't see the full power of the GPU.

for example with bf3 and Q6600

I get around 15-25fps with a Q6600 and GT430 on med when playing Bf3
I can switch out my GT430 for my 7870XT (pretty much a 7950 when OC'd and max everything and I'll run 40-60fps in non CPU intensive situations, like looking at a wall,floor, or non-populated area but I was instantly drop down to 15 fps again regardless of playing on low or ultra when players would come onto my screen.


if you already know about bottlenecks, sorry for rambling on. tongue.gif

with that 2500k you'll be set with just about any GPU, I'd personally go with the 7950 and heres why

I was originally going to buy it but it was 300 when I was shopping, but now at 200, its the best Price:Performance card out atm (AFAIK)
crossfire has gotten better with drivers if you ever plan to get another
also with crossfire, you can crossfire with the 280x I believe that is coming out

Im not an amd fanboy by any means but the 7950 is just a really good deal, you could go and get a 660 for around the same price.

Try to get a 3gb version if you game at 1080p and don't play to Xfire/SLI and like eye candy, AAA games are becoming more demanding and I know even when playing BF4 Beta on ultra x4 MSAA 720P I'm using 1500-1900MB of video ram

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