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post #1 of 8
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Hi,

Yesterday I discovered those 27" korean monitors and I'm willing to take the risk, but I did not find any serious, meticulous review about them with details such as DeltaE average before and after calibration.

I need a new IPS monitor for photo editing. I currently use a TN panel so any IPS would be miles ahead, but I do need one that, once calibrated, has accurate color reproduction.

I read about blue and green and yellow tint in the Korean panels. That's also the case with my current and previous TN panels, but how are they once calibrated?

I also read (I read a lot) some comment on YouTube of someone who did a video "review" of the Crossover 27Q that says to never buy that 27Q because they die after a few months. I don't know what to think because many seem to say they're the best as far as "packaging" goes (the metal and the stand and all that).

Are there people here who own one of those 27" Korean panels for months, use them daily and can report how long you had them?
Anyone who used a calibration device like a Spyder4 or Colormunki Display and can share her/his results?

I don't mind a few dead pixels or some minor light bleeding. I care about how long these panels last and how accurate is their color reproduction once they're calibrated.


Thank you!
post #2 of 8
A number of them simply cannot be calibrated with hardware calibration devices, and the results I'vesseen from those that have been, well, it's very disappointing. If you need color accuracy, I'm sorry to say it, but you do have to pay for it. The U2713/U3014 Series from Dell is the best "entry-level" Series of displays for color accurate work, in terms of price.

Also, what gamut do you need to be faithful to? Most Korean displays seem to get fairly close to sRGB but none get anywhere near AdobeRGB (the 30" WCG Korean displays just oversaturate everything), as none of them (the 27") have more than an 8bit panel. For wide gamut work, you need a 10bit panel with a high bit LUT.

Frankly, I would not recommend that you gamble on a Korean panel when you can get a U2713Hm (AH-IPS but not a true color critical monitor) f or $450-500, or the excellent U2713H for $700-800. For wide gamut work, the U3014 comes in at around $1100 but the RGW-LED backlight and incredible panel makes it very worthwhile.
   
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post #3 of 8
i can attest to the issue, i've owned 3 different korean 27" ers, and have seen several others, they all have pretty different color temperatures, ( and most have no OSD to adjsut them )

though there are some software adjustments you can do to bring them to your liking.

and honestly, if you cant afford the brand name big monitors, I would much rather take a slightly less color accurate 1440 monitor than a spot on 1080. ( note the dell big monitors have crazy bad anti-glare, that will throw off the color accuracy of the picture anyway, so its kinda pointless )

With photoshop and light room open, and all the tool pallets, you are not left with a ton of canvas space.


most of the people looking at your photos will more than likely be doing so on a mobile device anyway, and if you're not a professional, I wouldn't worry about it and would just pick up a korean


And all the korean monitors i've had, I've never had one die. ( though have seen some poor versions of them with flaws so bad that I personally would not use that particular one ) Though I think for the most part they are pretty good.
Edited by Jixr - 10/21/13 at 2:29pm
post #4 of 8
Thread Starter 
Nleksan, I don't need a wide gamut display. In fact, I'd rather have an sRGB one, regardless of price.
You said that "a number of them can't be calibrated..." - Are there any ones that can be? Because they all seem to lack RGB and Contrast sliders, and some don't even have the option to adjust backlight (not just brightness).


Jixr, I'm not a professional but I'd still like to have accurate colors. I've ordered a Colormunki Display and would like to put it use with a new IPS display. I find myself editing photos on my computer, but when I view them on my iPad or iPhone I find that they have so much more contrast and brightness. It really has become ridiculous, I feel I just can't trust any color/exposure/contrast adjustments with my screen, and I'm afraid a Korean monitor, while being IPS, won't help me enough with that issue.

BTW, you mentioned the U2713HM for $450-500, but on Amazon and Newegg it's $539 and $600, respectively.
Are there deals on these monitors at times, or maybe some coupons or anything? Would be awesome if I could get it for $450 or so.

Edit: Oh man, there was a $35 off deal on refurbished Dell monitors, including a U2711 for $389 and a U2713HM for $379. Ended 4 days ago. frown.gif
Edited by YonathanZ - 10/21/13 at 3:03pm
post #5 of 8
well, just saying, ipads and iphones are intentionally have a little bit more contrast than a media minded calibrated monitor.

and the dells go on sale quite often, but just warning you, the Anti-glare is terrible. I ended up trading a 30" dell for a 27" korean. the AG makes the screen look fussy and having a glossy monitor makes everything look so much better.
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 
Hmm. So no Dell because of the AG and no Korean monitor because you can't calibrate very well.

How about a 1080p 27" monitor? Sure the pixel density is much lower, but the screen will be further of course, otherwise I'll have to move my eyes around too much. biggrin.gif
Do you think that's a good idea? Any 1080p 27" monitor recommendations for color accuracy?
post #7 of 8
I think you're getting too much into this for non-professional use.

Just get what best fits your budget and your needs, or maybe try to find a nearby store that carries the dell so you can check it out.
post #8 of 8

If you don't need the aRGB (wide-gamut) display, then I'd get the Asus PB278Q, and calibrate it with an i1 Display Pro (and return that Colormunki imo. They aren't remotely near as accurate as the i1 Display Pro).

 

You can generally find them sub $500 if you'd be willing to look at the used market: Link

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