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Yeah i have no freaking clue what legacy rom optimization means. I looked up the codes in the guide already. I also browsed the rog forums and it seems b2 is usually connected to a memory issue.

 

Every time i try and change stuff i hit the bios reset (like removing dimms or moving the gpu). I hope this isn't an RMA situation. I've been waiting forever to finally turn everything on. I'm glad i wanted to test on air first

 

Yeah, i'm gonna go to sleep now. Hopefully i'll have better luck tomorrow =\

    
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These may sound like silly suggestions, but I say them because I have faced these demons straight faced and yelled YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!

1) ASSUMING you can go to BIOS Settings, go in and make sure the ram is set to the right setting. On my last build, my ram defaulted down to 1066 in the bios so I had to go in and manually adjust it to 1600s. On my friends his Crosshair V didn't like the 2400s and wouldn't boot until he dropped the clocks down to 1866. I about pulled my hair out on that one, thought the ram was bad because it was a complete build and everything was new. So If you can I would try and put them at an average like 1333 or 1600 and see if it will at least boot.


2) If you cant get into BIOS, or if changing clock speeds does nothing, a process of elimination would work. Pull all but 1 ram stick, put it in SLOT A and try to boot just off it, if nothing works, try another stick, repeat. If none of them work, try the adjacent slot on the other channel. A buddy didn't realize his problem on his Gigabyte board until it was too late, but the last slot on the 2nd channel was bad, went to expand the memory and it kept BSOD at random times during heavy RAM consumption.

Hope one of these help or you get it figured out. I hate hearing bad news on awesome builds and I have really been looking forward to this thing up and running!!! sadsmiley.gif
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Yeah i have no freaking clue what legacy rom optimization means. I looked up the codes in the guide already. I also browsed the rog forums and it seems b2 is usually connected to a memory issue.

Every time i try and change stuff i hit the bios reset (like removing dimms or moving the gpu). I hope this isn't an RMA situation. I've been waiting forever to finally turn everything on. I'm glad i wanted to test on air first

Yeah, i'm gonna go to sleep now. Hopefully i'll have better luck tomorrow =\

I want to say that the white fittings and the red liquid looks AMAZING! And I am sorry to hear about your plight with the boot issues... sadly, I have nothing to suggest. Just wanted to drop by and say whasssup and goood luck.
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I would start this post by digging further into the "filler tube" situation tongue.gif Water standing like that still seams physically impossible to me :S
but it seams we have more important issues to deal with.

As @TLSheff said, I would start with RAM.. 1 stick in first slot (D1).. if it works, test all sticks.. if it works, test one of the sticks in all slots (one at a time ofc..) then move on to two sticks and so on.

I DID spot something new to me in your manual..

you have 4 sticks right? Im guessing you are following this setup? Im having a hard time seeing what stick is in what slot smile.gif
I have (multiple times) fixed problems like this by simply taking out the ram and reseating them IN THE RIGHT ORDER! (witch I assume would be: D1, B1, C1, A1)
This seams odd, I know.. but for some reason RAM sometimes dont like being put in in a "wrong" order.. no idea if the order of seating matters at all, but seams to have done the trick for me a few times in the past smile.gif

I assume you dont have another GPU lying around? I would try that after ram or maybe before ram since it is easier / less time consuming

after the system has been running for a min or so (black screen) what does the diagnostic display say?

(the two digit oldschool "display" in the right corner)
 
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1. do what TLSheff and GaMbi said with the RAM. Use known good RAM if possible. i.e from a working pc with compatible RAM and also remove/unplug everything that is not necessary to boot the pc, by that I mean everything that plugs into your motherboard, hard drives, optical drives a different keyboard and mouse if you got them.
2. Remove graphics card and use on board HDMI/DVI port
3. If 3 worked, then the graphics card is probably dead, or hopefully the BIOS has been set to only use the cpu's on board iGPU and not the PCIe slot. My MVIF BIOS is set to not power the cpu fan as default. which was nice That was addressed in a BIOS update,
4. check cpu socket for bent pin/s. They are really easily bent on these new boards.
5. That's about it until there's any feedback on results, I don't think there is any non reference 290x boards out yet. So the chances of you fitting the wrong block to it is unlikely. You could have over tightened the block onto the card and damaged it. Judging by how hard my reference cooler was screwed down I'd doubt that as well. Always worth mentioning when it's GPU LED that stays on. Equally though it could just as likely be a driver issue with any of your peripherals. So don't dispair yet.

Here's hoping to see the word success in your next post, good luck with it. Seeing your build has given me some impetus to get on and finish mine.
Edited by welshy46 - 1/30/14 at 1:18pm
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It's x79, no on board graphics. tongue.gif
post #987 of 3109
no onboard GPU smile.gif also I believe his GPU is still running on air.
but yea! unplug everything is also a good idea (also the HDD led, reset, power, power led etc) turn the board on using the onboard button instead.

Guessing there isnt much more to add / ask before he comes back. So sad when new builds wont boot frown.gif
 
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post #988 of 3109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLSheff View Post

These may sound like silly suggestions, but I say them because I have faced these demons straight faced and yelled YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!

1) ASSUMING you can go to BIOS Settings, go in and make sure the ram is set to the right setting. On my last build, my ram defaulted down to 1066 in the bios so I had to go in and manually adjust it to 1600s. On my friends his Crosshair V didn't like the 2400s and wouldn't boot until he dropped the clocks down to 1866. I about pulled my hair out on that one, thought the ram was bad because it was a complete build and everything was new. So If you can I would try and put them at an average like 1333 or 1600 and see if it will at least boot.


2) If you cant get into BIOS, or if changing clock speeds does nothing, a process of elimination would work. Pull all but 1 ram stick, put it in SLOT A and try to boot just off it, if nothing works, try another stick, repeat. If none of them work, try the adjacent slot on the other channel. A buddy didn't realize his problem on his Gigabyte board until it was too late, but the last slot on the 2nd channel was bad, went to expand the memory and it kept BSOD at random times during heavy RAM consumption.

Hope one of these help or you get it figured out. I hate hearing bad news on awesome builds and I have really been looking forward to this thing up and running!!! sadsmiley.gif

 

Yeah i tried that last night but i was pretty heated at the time. I tried 1 dimm and 2 dimms in different slots. I'm gonna try again shortly. I can't get into bios though. Just black screen so far. That's the issue

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxwunder13 View Post

I want to say that the white fittings and the red liquid looks AMAZING! And I am sorry to hear about your plight with the boot issues... sadly, I have nothing to suggest. Just wanted to drop by and say whasssup and goood luck.

 

Thanx bro. I appreciate the support

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMbi2004 View Post

I would start this post by digging further into the "filler tube" situation tongue.gif Water standing like that still seams physically impossible to me :S
but it seams we have more important issues to deal with.

As @TLSheff said, I would start with RAM.. 1 stick in first slot (D1).. if it works, test all sticks.. if it works, test one of the sticks in all slots (one at a time ofc..) then move on to two sticks and so on.

I DID spot something new to me in your manual..

you have 4 sticks right? Im guessing you are following this setup? Im having a hard time seeing what stick is in what slot smile.gif
I have (multiple times) fixed problems like this by simply taking out the ram and reseating them IN THE RIGHT ORDER! (witch I assume would be: D1, B1, C1, A1)
This seams odd, I know.. but for some reason RAM sometimes dont like being put in in a "wrong" order.. no idea if the order of seating matters at all, but seams to have done the trick for me a few times in the past smile.gif

I assume you dont have another GPU lying around? I would try that after ram or maybe before ram since it is easier / less time consuming

after the system has been running for a min or so (black screen) what does the diagnostic display say?

(the two digit oldschool "display" in the right corner)

 

Lol, i don't know what to tell you about the fillport. It's not like i wanted the liquid to be sitting there. I had to disconnect the fillport with the pump off and the chassis laying completely on its side to get the liquid to stay in the res.

 

The correct order for the ram in the manual is the gray slots starting from the io shield side. I tried last night, even using the black slots, but when i use the black slots instead i get the no memory detected beeps.

 

I get "b2" in the post code, along with the vga_led lit up and a short beep. And i don't have any other gpu or ram lying around.

Quote:
Originally Posted by welshy46 View Post

1. do what TLSheff and GaMbi said with the RAM. Use known good RAM if possible. i.e from a working pc with compatible RAM and also remove/unplug everything that is not necessary to boot the pc, by that I mean everything that plugs into your motherboard, hard drives, optical drives a different keyboard and mouse if you got them.
2. Remove graphics card and use on board HDMI/DVI port
3. If 3 worked, then the graphics card is probably dead, or hopefully the BIOS has been set to only use the cpu's on board iGPU and not the PCIe slot. My MVIF BIOS is set to not power the cpu fan as default. which was nice That was addressed in a BIOS update,
4. check cpu socket for bent pin/s. They are really easily bent on these new boards.
5. That's about it until there's any feedback on results, I don't think there is any non reference 290x boards out yet. So the chances of you fitting the wrong block to it is unlikely. You could have over tightened the block onto the card and damaged it. Judging by how hard my reference cooler was screwed down I'd doubt that as well. Always worth mentioning when it's GPU LED that stays on. Equally though it could just as likely be a driver issue with any of your peripherals. So don't dispair yet.

Here's hoping to see the word success in your next post, good luck with it. Seeing your build has given me some impetus to get on and finish mine.

 

lga2011, no iGPU. I haven't put a waterblock on my 290x yet, i wanted to test on air first. The fan spins on the gpu, just no screen.

I was wondering about the driver issue, but considering i can't get video without the gpu hooked up i don't know how to install drivers.

 

I'm praying it's not bent pins. I checked em out last night and they seemed to be ok but i was pretty stressed at the time.

 


 

Thanks everybody for your feedback and trying to help. I'm gonna try unplugging everything except the gpu, cpu, and ram. Then i'll try switching around the dimms again. I'll report back if i'm still getting stuck at the "b2" code with the vga_led lit up

    
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Yeah i tried that last night but i was pretty heated at the time. I tried 1 dimm and 2 dimms in different slots. I'm gonna try again shortly. I can't get into bios though. Just black screen so far. That's the issue

Thanx bro. I appreciate the support


Lol, i don't know what to tell you about the fillport. It's not like i wanted the liquid to be sitting there. I had to disconnect the fillport with the pump off and the chassis laying completely on its side to get the liquid to stay in the res.

The correct order for the ram in the manual is the gray slots starting from the io shield side. I tried last night, even using the black slots, but when i use the black slots instead i get the no memory detected beeps.

I get "b2" in the post code, along with the vga_led lit up and a short beep. And i don't have any other gpu or ram lying around.

lga2011, no iGPU. I haven't put a waterblock on my 290x yet, i wanted to test on air first. The fan spins on the gpu, just no screen.
I was wondering about the driver issue, but considering i can't get video without the gpu hooked up i don't know how to install drivers.

I'm praying it's not bent pins. I checked em out last night and they seemed to be ok but i was pretty stressed at the time.

Thanks everybody for your feedback and trying to help. I'm gonna try unplugging everything except the gpu, cpu, and ram. Then i'll try switching around the dimms again. I'll report back if i'm still getting stuck at the "b2" code with the vga_led lit up

Is it in the case? if so maybe take it out and set it on a box and try to boot it. I have had the I/O shield ( I think) be grounded and cause problems.. you can boot it and run it for 2 or 3 minutes even without the pump running and water in loop. it has a heat sink on it. I have done this before and what do you think you do when you put the indiogo extreme on it so it will not hurt anything...
post #990 of 3109
I'm not in ANY way saying to give up yet.



but...




should you get tired of messing with it...






box it up and send it to me. thumb.gif

I will pay for shipping.

and then keep it.

You can just start over with a new build and hope that works out better. tongue.gif
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