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Ok,so like everyone else I want a 120hz refresh rate. Currently I am stuck on 75hz and I really want to make the switch. Unfortunately I have nowhere near 160$+ since I don't have a job. Because of this, I started looking at CRTs and found that they boast incredibly high refresh rates. This is really convenient for me since they are cheap and apparently have great motion quality. I've been looking at these CRTs and their refresh rates are insane. Almost all of them I have seen have 140hz plus refresh rates. But unfortunately I'm a little confused on something. All the monitors have two classifications: A vertical refresh rate and a horizontal refresh rate: I would like to ask you guys, What is the difference between the two refresh rates, and If I do buy one of these monitors will I be really able to use the 120,140,160 or even 180hz refresh rate?

Here are the ones I've been looking at:
http://reviews.cnet.com/crt-monitors/dell-e773s-crt-monitor/4507-3175_7-31093577.html
Horizontal: 70hz Vertical:160hz
http://reviews.cnet.com/crt-monitors/viewsonic-g810/4507-3175_7-124552.html
Horizontal: 97Hz Vertical: 180hz
http://reviews.cnet.com/crt-monitors/compaq-fs7600-crt-monitor/4507-3175_7-31780007.html
Horizontal: 70Hz Vertical: 160hz
http://reviews.cnet.com/crt-monitors/viewsonic-pf-790/4507-3175_7-1517451.html
Horizontal: 97Hz Vertical: 180Hz
http://reviews.cnet.com/crt-monitors/iiyama-vision-master-1451/4507-3175_7-30990307.html
Horizontal: 96Hz Vertical: 160hz
Basically, I found dozens of monitors like these. BTW I don't care at all about colors or text quality and stuff like that. I am willing to compromise low resolution for a 140hz or above refresh rate. My sole concern is refresh rate. Screen size: At least above 17". Maybe you guys could suggest some CRTs that do 160hz and above, or explain if these ones I listed do. THX!!
P.S. Getting 160+ fps is not a problem since I'm only looking to play CoD games, CSS and CSGO.
Edited by n1colas - 10/21/13 at 9:55pm
post #2 of 6
a crt paints a single dot of light. It does it all the way across one line, then goes to the next one. Horizontal is how long it takes to draw one line. Now those lights are phosphors that after being hit with the electron gun glow for a litttle bit before fading away, This is why CRTs don;t go dark instantly.

You will get both color, brightness and accuracy with a CRT along with your refresh. It is a dead bet that a good CRT is going to kick ass all over an LCD. They've got better color, more color and they do it faster.

The problem is the good ones are heavy. REALLY heavy. they're made of glass up to 3 inches thick, and a good deal of lead. You can frequently tell a good CRT by weight. Thicker glass for a flatter screen and better vacuum, More lead for better shielding, more, better electron guns.

These are not things you can transport on a bicycle.

The good ones are also really thick. The narrower the angle the guns have to shoot at the better the picture, the longer the tube, and the deeper or thicker the monitor is going to be. this is the big win of LCD over CRT. A good CRT will take up most of your desk.

I had a pro quality 26" trinitron monitor back in the day and it was deeper than it was wide

It used to be that sony made the best ones. They invented the trinitron tube that was the gold standard for more than 20 years. Towards the end the Koreans started to beat them a bit, But trinitrons were always up there.

CRTs do not last for ever. They eventually start to get blurry and then the tubes go, generally one at a time, so the color will go severely wonky.

I am assuming you are buying used. Make them turn the things on and display some text in a small font. Look at it closely to make sure it is sharp.
Edited by bombastinator - 10/21/13 at 11:37pm
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The horizontal scan rate is the number of lines it can scan per second. It's in kHz, not Hz. The higher it is, the higher the vertical refresh rate can be at higher resolutions.

You won't be able to get 120 Hz at higher resolutions. You might be able to get 120 Hz at 1024x768 on the 97 kHz monitors.
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what if I set the resolution to very low,like 800x600, then would I be able to do 160Hz?
Edited by n1colas - 10/22/13 at 7:05am
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Depends on the monitor. The dells and compaqs are crap. the viewsonic is the only monitor there that is not some comes-with-a-machine piece of garbage. it'll do 149@1600x1200.

you may find this article interesting http://www.tested.com/tech/gaming/456719-best-crt-retro-games/
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Originally Posted by ToastyX View Post

The horizontal scan rate is the number of lines it can scan per second. It's in kHz, not Hz. The higher it is, the higher the vertical refresh rate can be at higher resolutions.
n1colas --

Scanline = one row of pixels
That means number of pixel rows per second, in the digital era, since some people are no longer familiar with the word "scanline", even some gamers today have never seen a CRT in person before!

Generally, horizontal scanrate matches:
vertical refresh X (vertical resolution + blanking interval)
Edited by mdrejhon - 10/23/13 at 7:36am
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