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Hey all, this is my first thread and I have some questions before im going to buy new headphones.

ATM im thinking of buying a headphone around 200 euros. I'm looking for the best mix between immersive and competitive gaming. I will be mainly using the headphones for gaming (80%) and gaming+music (20%). Also i want to know what the main difference is between the DT990 and the pro version. The casual DT990 is way more expensive, but im also looking for a competitive 60% > immersive 40% gaming headphone. I will be buying a modmic / zalman clipmic, so no headset is needed (only headphones).
And do I need to buy a AMP/DAC or soundcard for those headphones or not? and what is the main difference between those things? (im a beginner in audio).

Thanks for your reply!
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Btw when im going to buy one of these headphones, it will be a 250 Ohm version, so i think a AMP/DAC/soundcard is needed. Also i play most of the time bf4/bf3 or other FPS. When i listen to music, i listen rock/ pop and dubstep. I watch most of the time action movies (when i watch movies).
I already have a good logitech Z623 2.1 speakerset, with enough bass, so thats why i want a competitive 60%>immersive 40% gaming headphone.
Thanks!
post #3 of 9
I havent looked at them specifically, but normally the pro version is a closed back and also grips your head tighter. The normal one would be better IMO because open back or semi-open tends to have a better "sound stage" for your music.

But yes, if you have a 250 Ohm you *might* want to get a better DAC + headphone amp combo to get better volume out of the headphones since integrated audio on the motherboard generally doesn't push out enough power to that sort of impedance. You can always try it out without buying a headphone amp first and if you dont like the volume you can get then you can buy an amp. If you were to go with the 600Ohm version you will definitely need an amp to get decent volume out.
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The Pro's are just housed with different material than the Premium version. They are still both open headphones and contain the same drivers. Sonic differences between the two are mainly due to the different materials used.

I'd say save the money and go for the DT990 Pro's 250ohm as you stated and get a soundcard powerful enough to drive them like the Xonar ST/STX. Not sure if you are into the surround features like Dolby Headphone but they definitely make gaming much more immersive and is great for competitive gaming.

The DT990's will suite you well for the things you want including action movies. wink.gif
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Thanks, for helping me out!

Now I know the difference between the pro version and the normal version, Im convinced that i could better buy the pro version, because of the price. But this thread is also about the A700x. I have red so much good things about the AD700x, so now I really want to know the opinion of you guys! Wish headphone, should I buy (AD700x / DT 990) and with what kind of sound card and AMP?
BTW I don't know if surround is needed, because the positioning from the AD700x is good enough (Im not sure about the positioning of the DT 990).

Thanks for your help!
post #6 of 9
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Thanks, for this information!

Now I know the difference between the pro version and the normal version, I'm convinced that i could better buy the pro version, because of the price. But this thread is also about the A700x. I have red so much good things about the AD700x, so now I really want to know the opinion of you guys! Wish headphone, should I buy (AD700x / DT 990) and with what kind of sound card and AMP?
BTW I don't know if surround is needed, because the positioning from the AD700x is good enough (I'm not sure about the positioning of the DT 990).

Thanks for your help!
post #7 of 9
The AD700X headphones have less bass but because of that they are able to add more detail. They also have a wider soundstage than the DT990's. The DT990's have punchier bass and peak at the treble.

It's definitely all about what you prefer but with the details you gave me the DT990's are "fun"/"competitive" headphones where as the AD700x's swing more on the "competitive" side than the "fun" side.
It's all in the music you listen to as well. Do you like to feel the bass? Vocals? etc.

The positioning on the DT990's is almost up there with the AD700X's with the wider soundstage of the AD700X's giving them the slight advantage.

The surround sound feature is there to take advantage of the soundstage your headphones possess to give you better positional audio than stereo but it's up to you what you like. Some people don't like it. Some do... I'd suggest looking it up to test for yourself first so we can figure out the amp situation. Lots of choices there.

PS: Depending on the soundstage of the headphones you currently have, the effect of the dolby headphone tests will change dramatically where as if you had a wide soundstage like the AD700x/DT990's. Just keep that in mind.
post #8 of 9
DT990= Got some bass, recessed upper midrange, bright treble. Treble can be fatiguing, or exaggerated. Could be good for gaming, since the sounds that relate to the treble would be highlighted, especially by the midrange recession.

DT990 Pro= Basically a bassier and cheaper version of the DT990 Premium. Same driver, earpads, but it has more clamping force, which will give you a better seal, which equates to more bass quantity. Same midrange recession and treble peak, though, if not a bit more because of the clamping force.

AD700x= Least bass of the three. neutral-ish midrange, if not slightly forward. Same driver as the AD700, but with a different headphone chassis and thicker earpads (more bass than AD700). There is a peak in the treble, but not as much as the DT990. It sounds more realistic. Since these have the least amount of bass, you can focus easier on the higher frequencies, which makes it easier to point out footsteps and whatnot.

Gaming-wise: AD700x, DT990, DT990 Pro (Same applies to the soundstage)

Music-wise: Tossup. I don't know your preferences when it comes to music.

If I were you, I'd take a look at the Sony MDR-MA900. People on Head-Fi have said that these are the best headphones in the $200 price bracket, and some have sold Sennheiser HD600s because of these headphones. It's a great alternative to the AD700x. It also has a larger soundstage than the AD700x and the DT990/Pro, they're more comfortable, lightweight, more neutral sound reproduction, rolled off bass is a plus for focusing on the higher frequencies, and they go together well with music.

You can also take a look at the Headphone Gaming Guide on Head-Fi. Really good information in that thread.
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Hey guys,

If we are talking about the BeyerDynamic DT series, maybe the threadstarter should also try out the DT880 series? Both their Premium 32 ohms and the 250 ohms Pro versions.

@ TS: Some of the newer motherboards from Gigabyte come with an integrated headphone amp that is supposed to be able to drive up to 600 ohms (I'm not sure how true this is though). Another potion to consider perhaps?
     
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