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Firstly a huge hello... I have missed this place in the time I have been gone. This still remains my favorite hardware forum.

I need some suggestions for my new build. I have some very fussy requirements for this new build:

Already purchased:
i7-4770k
Asus z87-pro
8gb Corsair XMS3 1600
Samsung SSD
1 TB HDD
xfx 650w psu

Planned purchases next weekend:
GPU Nvidia (Still considering options) will most likely be a mid range/high end card
Aftermarket cpu cooler (needs to be good for overclocking sametime fit a HTPC case)
Case fans (silent) 120/140mm?

I would like a good looking case to fit in with my home theatre (Samsung UE46F8000 and Soundbar). The case needs to be of HTPC type, but must be able to house my ATX mobo, and I am planning to run a single gpu with a view to SLI down the line when the need arises.
At the moment I have no optical drive, this may not be required as I watch mostly online tv and youtube.

Suggestions would be appreciated. Price is not an issue, however, I would like some good value.

Please link to UK sites for pricing, no newegg as I cannot order from them.

Thanks 9099
    
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I can't believe that there are no suggestions at all?

Ok... Needs have changed. I am now looking for a midi tower or similar. Needs to be tool-less, and have room for large graphics cards.

I like the look of Corsair 600t and the Cooler Master HAF XB... Anything you can recommend along these lines would be kindly appreciated.
    
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If you like the looks of the Coolermaster HAF XB, go for it, its a fine case, just to me for HTPC is not what i would use, given if you have other AV components, i would prefer a more laid back look to match my setup, the two cases that come to my mind for HTPC ATX setups are the Silverstone Grandia GD07/08.

Silverstone SST-GD07B USB 3.0 HTPC Case £103.47
Silverstone SST-GD08B USB 3.0 HTPC Case £111.89

You probably would get more feedback on AV forums, like HTForum, AVSforums, Audioholics, XMBC, etc, in those forums you will find more poeple using AV horizontal oriented cases.

Good luck with your choice,
Edited by Abula - 10/27/13 at 11:01am
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Noctua case fans ^.^
Idk about aftermarket cooler but noctua also has a cpu cooler that is very well known for performance as well as silence.
Nvidia 560 Ti are rated #1 value wise at around $145 each, otherwise you can wait for the prices to go down as r9 290x and 780 ti came out and will likely lower many of their other cards.
Edited by malzmidx - 10/27/13 at 11:36am
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If you are going with a media PC, why not look at something with a handle?

I'm using a CM Scout II for home media purposes. The reason being it has a nifty integrated handle. I move it between several tv's in my house (not a fan of Apple TV!).

You can fit a beast of a system in it.

I also used an NZXT Vulcan for awhile (if you can base you build on MATX)



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I just gave you recommendation for the case, missed the other things,
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Originally Posted by 9099 View Post

GPU Nvidia (Still considering options) will most likely be a mid range/high end card
If your budget allows, go with MSI Gaming series,
MSI Nvidia GTX 760 2GB DDR5 TF Fan PCI-E Graphics Card £199.99
MSI Nvidia GTX 770 Gaming 2GB DDR5 TF Fan PCI-E Graphics Card £305.00

Both are very quiet gpus, probably the quietest on each model, reflected on the following reviews,
TechPowerup Review MSI GTX 760 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB
TechPowerup Review MSI GTX 770 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9099 View Post

Aftermarket cpu cooler (needs to be good for overclocking sametime fit a HTPC case)
This is rough, specially because the the HTPC style cases arent meant for high end gear, specially thinking on how the intel i7-4770K heatsup with little overclocking.

Fron Silverstone web of the Grandia GD07/08, the limitation on height for CPU coolers is 138mm. So most big tower wont fit out of the height, here some options for you to consider

Noctua NH-U9B SE2 £45.95
Is the only tower that i know would fit, as its height is 125mm, it should handle the i7-4770K fine on stock, but out of its reduced size not sure how it will go with overclocking. Now going into horizontal coolers, you have the

Noctua NH-C14 £64.90
Is a really good cooler, probably the best there is on horizontal placement, its size and fans should handle the i7-4770K fine and some overclocking. The only issue is its height with the fan is 130mm, so that gives you 8mm of breathing room... a little to tight for my liking. If i were to go with this out of being the best choice, i would probably mod the side panel, to add a hole as intake for it, not that hard to do.

Noctua NH-L12 £42.95
This is noctuas midle gound for HTPCs, its height with fan is 93mm, so it should have enough breathing room compared to the NH-C14. But its a relative small cooler not sure how it will handle the OCing on 4770k.

ThermalRight AXP-200 Universal CPU Cooler £45.99
This is another low profile cooler mainly oriented for HTPC cases, with height of 60mm + 13mm of the fan = 73mm.

Scythe Shuriken Rev.2 Processor Cooler £25.80
A cheaper option that its common on HTPCs, with height of 64mm, again not sure how it will handle the ocing 4770k.
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Case fans (silent) 120/140mm?
Case fan be careful, as per your choice of the Asus Z87 Pro, and all other Asus motherboards. What you need to be careful is what type of fan you use on each header, even if all motherboard headers are 4pin, they are not PWM (for 4pin fans), this is extremely important for you to understand before you buy the fans. For this reason alone, buy only 3pin fans for all your case fans, and use 4pin fans only on the CPU_FAN header and CPU_OPT, all CHA_FAN header use 3pin, recommended Scythe Gentle Typhoons and Scythe Glidestreams, there are multiple models that offer different rpms, so here its up to you and how much cooling you will need for ocing the 4770K, and specially how much noise you will tolerate for that, personally for HTPC setup, i have most of my fans below 500rpms, but i dont overclock on it, i like to not hear the fans whenever a quiet scene happens, but here all is relative. If you go with Grandia, go with Gentle Typhoons as some fans are placed horizontal and the real ball bearing of the GT should help with this, SPCR reviewed two models and they really liked the fans i leave you the review, Fan Roundup #6: Scythe, Noiseblocker, Antec, Nexus, Thermalright
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I can't believe that there are no suggestions at all?

Ok... Needs have changed. I am now looking for a midi tower or similar. Needs to be tool-less, and have room for large graphics cards.

I like the look of Corsair 600t and the Cooler Master HAF XB... Anything you can recommend along these lines would be kindly appreciated.

Sorry guys as per my second post ^^^ I am now looking for a midi tower. Not HTPC case. The build is now more performance orientated.
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If you like the looks of the Coolermaster HAF XB, go for it, its a fine case, just to me for HTPC is not what i would use, given if you have other AV components, i would prefer a more laid back look to match my setup, the two cases that come to my mind for HTPC ATX setups are the Silverstone Grandia GD07/08.

Silverstone SST-GD07B USB 3.0 HTPC Case £103.47
Silverstone SST-GD08B USB 3.0 HTPC Case £111.89

You probably would get more feedback on AV forums, like HTForum, AVSforums, Audioholics, XMBC, etc, in those forums you will find more poeple using AV horizontal oriented cases.

Good luck with your choice,

Thanks dude thumb.gif

I have looked at both those Silverstone cases, they are nice, but for the price I could get a lot of "normal (ATX)" high end cases. Since the build is not heading towards the performance end of the spectrum... I am no longer looking at HTPC cases due to space restrictions.
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Noctua case fans ^.^
Idk about aftermarket cooler but noctua also has a cpu cooler that is very well known for performance as well as silence.
Nvidia 560 Ti are rated #1 value wise at around $145 each, otherwise you can wait for the prices to go down as r9 290x and 780 ti came out and will likely lower many of their other cards.

Good recommendation, Noctua has come up in many of my searches. They seem to be more expensive than most case fans but seem to be worth it.
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I just gave you recommendation for the case, missed the other things,
If your budget allows, go with MSI Gaming series,
MSI Nvidia GTX 760 2GB DDR5 TF Fan PCI-E Graphics Card £199.99
MSI Nvidia GTX 770 Gaming 2GB DDR5 TF Fan PCI-E Graphics Card £305.00

Both are very quiet gpus, probably the quietest on each model, reflected on the following reviews,
TechPowerup Review MSI GTX 760 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB
TechPowerup Review MSI GTX 770 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB
This is rough, specially because the the HTPC style cases arent meant for high end gear, specially thinking on how the intel i7-4770K heatsup with little overclocking.

Fron Silverstone web of the Grandia GD07/08, the limitation on height for CPU coolers is 138mm. So most big tower wont fit out of the height, here some options for you to consider

Noctua NH-U9B SE2 £45.95
Is the only tower that i know would fit, as its height is 125mm, it should handle the i7-4770K fine on stock, but out of its reduced size not sure how it will go with overclocking. Now going into horizontal coolers, you have the

Noctua NH-C14 £64.90
Is a really good cooler, probably the best there is on horizontal placement, its size and fans should handle the i7-4770K fine and some overclocking. The only issue is its height with the fan is 130mm, so that gives you 8mm of breathing room... a little to tight for my liking. If i were to go with this out of being the best choice, i would probably mod the side panel, to add a hole as intake for it, not that hard to do.

Noctua NH-L12 £42.95
This is noctuas midle gound for HTPCs, its height with fan is 93mm, so it should have enough breathing room compared to the NH-C14. But its a relative small cooler not sure how it will handle the OCing on 4770k.

ThermalRight AXP-200 Universal CPU Cooler £45.99
This is another low profile cooler mainly oriented for HTPC cases, with height of 60mm + 13mm of the fan = 73mm.

Scythe Shuriken Rev.2 Processor Cooler £25.80
A cheaper option that its common on HTPCs, with height of 64mm, again not sure how it will handle the ocing 4770k.
Case fan be careful, as per your choice of the Asus Z87 Pro, and all other Asus motherboards. What you need to be careful is what type of fan you use on each header, even if all motherboard headers are 4pin, they are not PWM (for 4pin fans), this is extremely important for you to understand before you buy the fans. For this reason alone, buy only 3pin fans for all your case fans, and use 4pin fans only on the CPU_FAN header and CPU_OPT, all CHA_FAN header use 3pin, recommended Scythe Gentle Typhoons and Scythe Glidestreams, there are multiple models that offer different rpms, so here its up to you and how much cooling you will need for ocing the 4770K, and specially how much noise you will tolerate for that, personally for HTPC setup, i have most of my fans below 500rpms, but i dont overclock on it, i like to not hear the fans whenever a quiet scene happens, but here all is relative. If you go with Grandia, go with Gentle Typhoons as some fans are placed horizontal and the real ball bearing of the GT should help with this, SPCR reviewed two models and they really liked the fans i leave you the review, Fan Roundup #6: Scythe, Noiseblocker, Antec, Nexus, Thermalright

Thanks for all the effort. Is the Noctua NH-12DX not suitable? Or would you just not recommend it for 4770k?

As for graphics, I am looking at GTX 580... Their prices are dropping by the day. Are they mid range by today's standards?
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If you are going with a media PC, why not look at something with a handle?

I'm using a CM Scout II for home media purposes. The reason being it has a nifty integrated handle. I move it between several tv's in my house (not a fan of Apple TV!).

You can fit a beast of a system in it.

I also used an NZXT Vulcan for awhile (if you can base you build on MATX)




Thanks, What's the white case in the second picture?




+Rep all of you. Thanks for your help so far.
    
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Couple of questions before recommending,

1) Is the setup still bieng used on the TV?

2) Do you care about noise?

3) Are you open for watercooling or you prefer air?
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The gtx 580 seems like its a little overpriced. You can get a video card with more video memory at its price. Also why are you not looking at AMD cards? Just curious. I actually am also looking to upgrade my video card and amd seems to be putting out some good products lately for good prices. rolleyes.gif
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Sorry guys as per my second post ^^^ I am now looking for a midi tower. Not HTPC case. The build is now more performance orientated.
Thanks dude thumb.gif

I have looked at both those Silverstone cases, they are nice, but for the price I could get a lot of "normal (ATX)" high end cases. Since the build is not heading towards the performance end of the spectrum... I am no longer looking at HTPC cases due to space restrictions.
Good recommendation, Noctua has come up in many of my searches. They seem to be more expensive than most case fans but seem to be worth it.
Thanks for all the effort. Is the Noctua NH-12DX not suitable? Or would you just not recommend it for 4770k?

As for graphics, I am looking at GTX 580... Their prices are dropping by the day. Are they mid range by today's standards?
Thanks, What's the white case in the second picture?




+Rep all of you. Thanks for your help so far.

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Murder Box II
(18 items)
 
Home PC
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 6800K Asus X99-A II Zotac 1080Ti AMP Extreme Edition G. Skill Trident Z - 32GB/ 3200Hz/CL14/Quad  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB Corsair H100i V2 - w/ML120 Pro Fans Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Acer Z35P 1440P G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Steelseries Merc  EVGA Supernova G2 1000W Corsair 450D Mionix Naos 8200 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
Inwin Batmat Aluminum Sound Blaster Z Logitech Z906 - 5.1 Maxnomic Commander S-III Gaming Chair 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel G3440 Asus B85M-E/CSM EVGA GTX 950 Patriot Viper 3 - 2x8GB 1600hz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung EVO 850 - 500GB + 4TB/3TB x 2/2TB WD Green LG CH12LS28 Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 2 w/Corsair SP120 Fan Windows 10 64 Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 75" TV.... GooBang Doo MX3 Corsair CX430 V2 NMEDIAPC HTPC 6000B w/ Pro LCD Module 
Mouse
GooBang Doo MX3 
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