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E4300 takes that spot over on January 21st. Already cheaper boards are being released that will allow that overclock of 100% (or greater) to be achieved with ~200.00 for chip and board.

Leave old tech to those who like old tech. I am not one of those. They can play in the "dirt". I prefer "sand"...
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E4300 takes that spot over on January 21st. Already cheaper boards are being released that will allow that overclock of 100% (or greater) to be achieved with ~200.00 for chip and board.

Leave old tech to those who like old tech. I am not one of those. They can play in the "dirt". I prefer "sand"...

Well then let it take that spot, then people can start buying the E4300 and the "cheaper" motherboards and be happy with them, because they saved themselves money. If I didnt have my current computer, then I would buy the E4300.
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If I didnt have my current computer, then I would buy the E4300.
Finally a statement from you that makes sense. Very little else has. Somehow I think that you do not explain yourself well and end up sounding like you are taking stands that you are actually not taking.

I now wonder. Have you ever heard of the term "Agreement In Principle"?
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Finally a statement from you that makes sense. Very little else has. Somehow I think that you do not explain yourself well and end up sounding like you are taking stands that you are actually not taking.

I now wonder. Have you ever heard of the term "Agreement In Principle"?
Never heard of it.
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Never heard of it.
What, the word agreement or the whole saying?
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Never heard of it.
Agreement in principle allows one to extract a portion of a premise and agree with that portion. Then one can disagree with the portion one actually disagrees with so as to hold to a more realistic approach to complex discussions.

Such as:

At the time it was a good deal. I agree with you that this deal is becoming less of an advantage but when I bought this setup, it was indeed a good deal.

That being said, if I was now in the same purchasing decision making, I would go with. . .
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What, the word agreement or the whole saying?

LOL.. wow... thanks...
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Now a "Tripartite Agreement-in-Principle” is a multi-faceted agreement in principle between many parties. It is a very complex and consuming debate structure that is used to negotiate and allows all sides to certain points of understanding and agreement.

Without agreements in principle, discussions are left to single thrust. "You are wrong and I am right statements", which in real discussion, leave much to be desired and are the basis for most wars.
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And its simply not feasable in general to get a 100% overclock on and AMD.. But whats the point of getting such a high overclock? Bragging rights and high benchmarks, in real life usage things may be faster, but likely your system is already fast enough that it doesnt matter.
I think that pretty much explains your viewpoint on the whole "3800 X2 is a great buy because you save $30" argument.

Jori, an e6300 at a stable, feasable, overclock on AIR, WILL get 15seconds in SuperPi.
An X2 3800+ at a stable, feasable, overclock on AIR will get 27seconds at best.

Thats nearly a 100% performance increase for $30-$50 more, depending on where you buy. Pretty easy decision in my opinion.
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I think that pretty much explains your viewpoint on the whole "3800 X2 is a great buy because you save $30" argument.

Jori, an e6300 at a stable, feasable, overclock on AIR, WILL get 15seconds in SuperPi.
An X2 3800+ at a stable, feasable, overclock on AIR will get 27seconds at best.

Thats nearly a 100% performance increase for $30-$50 more, depending on where you buy. Pretty easy decision in my opinion.
Like I said to Xecutor, I dont care about benchmarks.. I dont even know what I score on any, why? Because my computer isnt slow, and games run fine at more than playable framerates. I'd rather save the money and get 60 fps, than spend the money and get 90 fps, because between 60 and 90 fps, there isnt anything noticable. Heck, if a 7900GTX was thrown in here, I bet it would play any current game, except for likely Oblivion at 1280x1024 maxed out and it remain playable.
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