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Originally Posted by Sleeppo View Post

My graphic card died a week ago (460 crashed and doesn't work with drivers anymore), and I am a huge gamer so these are my options.

1. Buy this card r9 290 bf4, 355€. Good Quality/Price +bf4, but noisy and hot and maybe later buy an aftermarket cooling. (voiding warrantly)
http://www.pccomponentes.com/sapphire_r9_290_4gb_gddr5_battlefield_4_edition.html

you should ask the vendor / manufacturers in your country, XFX in USA for example allows you to put on a custom cooler as long as you don't damage some sticker.

also I was told if you have to RMA and you do it well you can put back the reference cooler again without trace.

R290 + Accelero Xtereme 3 + BF4 = €410 and you are on roughly the same level as a GTX780 (not the uber OCd edition, the ones for €440).
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Really? The nvidia cards do overclock higher I know that but im not so sure I believe that the nvidia cards out perform the 290/x at 1080p. You also have to remember the drivers for the 290/X are very immature and the nvidia drivers are super optimized and the 290/X still equals or betters the 780TI in most games.

Just for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp8jx5OEB1k&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9PBzalIcEQCsiIkq36PyUA

Ok, let me nuance this post a bit.

Stock for stock the 290 can win. But only just. The 290X easily wins.

However, the 290's start to limit clockspeeds while most factory OC'd 780's (which are often cheaper then reference models where I live) boost to roughly 1080Mhz. On that Boost they can just about equal a 290. Due to the 290's temp throttling overclocking isn't very usefull unless fan profile is changed or it's non-ref cooled. A 780 on the other hand can easily do 1100-1137Mhz on stock and with the Skyn3t BIOS 1200Mhz+ is managable on even reference cooling without throttling. A good card will even get close or go over 1300Mhz like 3 of my 7 780's would do.

On those clocks a 290, 290x or 780Ti (without overclocking) loses.

My point is, from personal experience, a reference cooled 290/290X can't easily beat a 780/780Ti due to the limit in overclocking / temps.

Now that my 290X is cooled by a Accelero Hybrid and cut apart stock coler for VRM's I hit 1160Mhz core and 1500Mhz VRAM stable and at those clocks it's very competative on the 290 BIOS with a 1300Mhz GTX780 but because it no longer throttles the 290 might just take the win. Even with 150Mhz less clocks.
On 290X BIOS at 1160Mhz there's no competition.
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Ok, let me nuance this post a bit.

Stock for stock the 290 can win. But only just. The 290X easily wins.

However, the 290's start to limit clockspeeds while most factory OC'd 780's (which are often cheaper then reference models where I live) boost to roughly 1080Mhz. On that Boost they can just about equal a 290. Due to the 290's temp throttling overclocking isn't very usefull unless fan profile is changed or it's non-ref cooled. A 780 on the other hand can easily do 1100-1137Mhz on stock and with the Skyn3t BIOS 1200Mhz+ is managable on even reference cooling without throttling. A good card will even get close or go over 1300Mhz like 3 of my 7 780's would do.

On those clocks a 290, 290x or 780Ti (without overclocking) loses.

My point is, from personal experience, a reference cooled 290/290X can't easily beat a 780/780Ti due to the limit in overclocking / temps.

Now that my 290X is cooled by a Accelero Hybrid and cut apart stock coler for VRM's I hit 1160Mhz core and 1500Mhz VRAM stable and at those clocks it's very competative on the 290 BIOS with a 1300Mhz GTX780 but because it no longer throttles the 290 might just take the win. Even with 150Mhz less clocks.
On 290X BIOS at 1160Mhz there's no competition.


Okay I got what you are saying and you are probably right. I had a 290 flashed to 290X with an accelero extreme III and it ran very cool and never down clocked so my gaming experience was both silent and excellent because it ran so cool and stable.
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post #11334 of 43951
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Ok, let me nuance this post a bit.

Stock for stock the 290 can win. But only just. The 290X easily wins.

However, the 290's start to limit clockspeeds while most factory OC'd 780's (which are often cheaper then reference models where I live) boost to roughly 1080Mhz. On that Boost they can just about equal a 290. Due to the 290's temp throttling overclocking isn't very usefull unless fan profile is changed or it's non-ref cooled. A 780 on the other hand can easily do 1100-1137Mhz on stock and with the Skyn3t BIOS 1200Mhz+ is managable on even reference cooling without throttling. A good card will even get close or go over 1300Mhz like 3 of my 7 780's would do.

On those clocks a 290, 290x or 780Ti (without overclocking) loses.

My point is, from personal experience, a reference cooled 290/290X can't easily beat a 780/780Ti due to the limit in overclocking / temps.

Now that my 290X is cooled by a Accelero Hybrid and cut apart stock coler for VRM's I hit 1160Mhz core and 1500Mhz VRAM stable and at those clocks it's very competative on the 290 BIOS with a 1300Mhz GTX780 but because it no longer throttles the 290 might just take the win. Even with 150Mhz less clocks.
On 290X BIOS at 1160Mhz there's no competition.

+rep. at the current prices of the 290s in the US (at least), i, for one, cannot recommend them.
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I'm very happy I bought mine before the mining frenzy started at just €356 incl shipping smile.gif The Hybrid was €74 incl shipping.. So for less then €430 I got a full fledged 290X which is quiet as can be (except for some pump noise..)
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How can oyu explain this Firestrike extreme test? Temps are fine max 82 on Core and max 70 on VRM, I haven't changed anything else then the memory clock..

1100/1350 = 9132

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1312964

vs

1100/1400 = 8868

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1316520
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How can oyu explain this Firestrike extreme test? Temps are fine max 82 on Core and max 70 on VRM, I haven't changed anything else then the memory clock..

1100/1350 = 9132

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1312964

vs

1100/1400 = 8868

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1316520

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/1312964/fs/1316520
 
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How can oyu explain this Firestrike extreme test? Temps are fine max 82 on Core and max 70 on VRM, I haven't changed anything else then the memory clock..

1100/1350 = 9132

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1312964

vs

1100/1400 = 8868

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1316520

ECC kick in due to unstable memory frecuency --> less performance
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Anyone know what is ok for 24/7? R9 290

I mean when i make 1000-1100mhz core clock without increase voltage.

Can i stay on 1000mhz with no problems?
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Anyone know what is ok for 24/7? R9 290

I mean when i make 1000-1100mhz core clock without increase voltage.

Can i stay on 1000mhz with no problems?

Yes that's fine
    
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