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That's why I wanted to see the max load voltage in GPUz screenshot Because if his 290 can do 1170 on stock volts something is off or he has the best clocking chip in 290 history, something I find a little hard to believe...
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Which is why "stock voltage" has always been such a useless comparison. Mine is 1.16v under load, at stock voltage. How does that make sense to compare to someone with 1.1v load, or yours with 1.22v?

I guess I always thought it was idiotic when people said that before, with the 79XX cards. Some came stock at 1.25v and others as low as 0.95v.. of course those with high reference voltages flaunted their high OCs and made everyone else think they got bad cards.

the load varies based on the oc. 1.16v for what oc? i'll try it and we'll compare. my 1.22v is for 1180. i think the question concerns highest oc that can run a game or a bench without touching the voltage. can you run 3DMark11 (as an example) at 1180 without touching the voltage? i think the result would dictate how high an oc the gpu can achieve. for my gpu - 1300.
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Which is why "stock voltage" has always been such a useless comparison. Mine is 1.16v under load, at stock voltage. How does that make sense to compare to someone with 1.1v load, or yours with 1.22v?

I guess I always thought it was idiotic when people said that before, with the 79XX cards. Some came stock at 1.25v and others as low as 0.95v.. of course those with high reference voltages flaunted their high OCs and made everyone else think they got bad cards.

I agree... my 290x can do 1100 core on stock volts -- but my stock volt is only 1150 mV

So him doing 1175 or whatever @ 1.22 isn't really impressive at all.

Honestly the difference between an 1100mhz and a 1200-1250 mhz 290/x is how much 5% performance at most? Memory ocing on these does just about nothing.

I can do 1200 with +50mv @ 60hz but when I run my monitor @ 110hz everything screws up over 1100 so i'm not sure what the real issue is since monitor refresh rate SHOULD have nothing to do with my video oc, but it seems it somehow does.

also wondering if there is a bios editor for these yet, or if someone handy with editing bios could possibly help me out and show me how to change clocks etc?
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 12/25/13 at 5:49pm
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the load varies based on the oc. 1.16v for what oc? i'll try it and we'll compare. my 1.22v is for 1180. i think the question concerns highest oc that can run a game or a bench without touching the voltage. can you run 3DMark11 (as an example) at 1180 without touching the voltage? i think the result would dictate how high an oc the gpu can achieve. for my gpu - 1300.

1.16 at 1100

Takes +80mV to get 1.22v under load.

This should have no relation to overall overclockability, or minimal at best. Its hard to find a connection with ASIC quality and OC but there does appear to be one.

This would be connecting stock voltage to OC, and stock voltage is likely determined from a number of ASIC pools. [Like 40-60, 61-80, and 81-100]

So the already small connection is even smaller.
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1.16 at 1100

Takes +80mV to get 1.22v under load.

This should have no relation to overall overclockability, or minimal at best. Its hard to find a connection with ASIC quality and OC but there does appear to be one.

This would be connecting stock voltage to OC, and stock voltage is likely determined from a number of ASIC pools. [Like 40-60, 61-80, and 81-100]

So the already small connection is even smaller.

can you run 3DMark11 using 1180 oc without adjusting the voltage using any app including CCC? if you can't, then there is a good possibility that you can't run the same bench at 1300 (adjusting the voltage) using the same app.

now, i am just guessing here . . . it could be related to how high an oc you can run your gpu playing a game like BF4.
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Thanks for this link. gave rep and bought software at the discount price.

yes sir no problem... i ended up cracking it lol haha
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I agree... my 290x can do 1100 core on stock volts -- but my stock volt is only 1150 mV

So him doing 1175 or whatever @ 1.22 isn't really impressive at all.

Honestly the difference between an 1100mhz and a 1200-1250 mhz 290/x is how much 5% performance at most? Memory ocing on these does just about nothing.

I can do 1200 with +50mv @ 60hz but when I run my monitor @ 110hz everything screws up over 1100 so i'm not sure what the real issue is since monitor refresh rate SHOULD have nothing to do with my video oc, but it seems it somehow does.

also wondering if there is a bios editor for these yet, or if someone handy with editing bios could possibly help me out and show me how to change clocks etc?

My 290 is acting the same with my Qnix monitor when the monitor is overclock.



  • Can do 1180 core on AB with +100mV no problem when monitor is at @60hz , overclocking the monitor @120mhz will corrupt the screen.
  • 1100 core and the Qnix @120 wont corrupt.
  • I think it the Qnix monitor as i have another Samsung connect and only the Qnix will corrupt.
  • Try better DVI-D cable and it didnt help ( Does help the Qnix monitor reaching 120hz tho thumb.gif)
  • Card is water cool and temp seem fine ( load temp Core 53C, Vrm 1 55C, Vrm 2 41 C)



So card is running at 1100mhz now as I either choose higher card OC or montior OC, and I cant go back to 60hz !!! rolleyes.gif
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My 290 is acting the same with my Qnix monitor when the monitor is overclock.



  • Can do 1180 core on AB with +100mV no problem when monitor is at @60hz , overclocking the monitor @120mhz will corrupt the screen.
  • 1100 core and the Qnix @120 wont corrupt.
  • I think it the Qnix monitor as i have another Samsung connect and only the Qnix will corrupt.
  • Try better DVI-D cable and it didnt help ( Does help the Qnix monitor reaching 120hz tho thumb.gif)
  • Card is water cool and temp seem fine ( load temp Core 53C, Vrm 1 55C, Vrm 2 41 C)



So card is running at 1100mhz now as I either choose higher card OC or montior OC, and I cant go back to 60hz !!! rolleyes.gif

WOW dude our cases are like exactly the same THANK YOU so much for posting glad it isn't just me. I had posted the same info on the qnix thread here and no one else seemed to have the problem.

Your temps are the same as mine and the over clocking is almost exactly the same too. My options are 1100mhz @ stock volts @ 110hz (my qnix won't go higher with any cable it seems) or 1200mhz w/ +25-50 mV @ 60hz. So I run 1100mhz as I never want to go back to 60 again.

Here is the screen I get.



or everything will just get super blurry.

What I don't get is video card OC should not effect the max monitor oc.
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 12/25/13 at 6:26pm
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The prices are still marked up, lowest price so far is at provantage, they're selling the XFX 290x for $559.
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The prices are still marked up, lowest price so far is at provantage, they're selling the XFX 290x for $559.
Thats a pretty reasonable price... lol.
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can you run 3DMark11 using 1180 oc without adjusting the voltage using any app including CCC? if you can't, then there is a good possibility that you can't run the same bench at 1300 (adjusting the voltage) using the same app.

now, i am just guessing here . . . it could be related to how high an oc you can run your gpu playing a game like BF4.

Sure, not tonight.

My max OC is somewhere around 1200. For some reason the card has artifacts like this with overvolting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJFd0jL35fI [ over +137mv ]

Not sure if its the PSU or the card. It only happens in battlefield [out of the few games I've tried; benches work fine.. up to a higher voltage, where they then do the same thing]

But you have to remember if your stock voltage is +60-80mv versus mine, you might be putting some serious volts in to it. Even ASUS GPU tweak, which gives you stated voltages instead of offsets, uses an offset. Its stated voltages are made up.
Edited by Derpinheimer - 12/25/13 at 6:49pm
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