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Hey all!

Building my first gaming rig since 2006... 8 years-ish? Wow... anyway, I've been toying with a budget ceiling of $1500 to get the highest-performance-I-can-get for that price. I've been following reviews, stories and benchmarks of the R9 series and have built up what I think is a decent PC around the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 OC: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uZxq (note: I have an SSD already and plenty of old large storage drives lying around).

Without the video card, the build comes in right around $840 - depending on daily deals, of course. I've got the Sapphire Tri-X r9 290 on order for $540 shipped (darn you 10% WA sales tax!!!) for a total of ~$1380, but can cancel it if need be. So here's where I'm looking to you experts: I've been toying with the idea of watercooling for over a decade now and am wondering if this may be the build to actually pull the trigger and try it. My priorities are about 70% noise, 30% performance/overclocking; my fiancee is a light sleeper and I want to make sure I can game with headphones and not have a turbojet of a computer wake her up, hence the Tri-X. However, I can find a reference R9 290 for ~$460 shipped, which would leave me with right around $200 left in the build for water cooling which I don't quite think is enough. Thoughts?

I'm also a bit confused about water cooling however, as I've seen some cooler reviews mention that they were just as loud if not louder than the stock coolers (e.g. Kraken G10). I thought the goal of water cooling was most-heat-dissipation-at-least-noise? How noisy are they in general with the pumps, radiator fan etc?
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Oh yeah, I definitely think that's the way to go. You get a much better pump. Of course your way is more expensive than givemedew's suggestion, I think he was just trying to get your feet wet in a budget friendly way.

I'm pretty sure you will need to use the XSPC 290x block in order to use the XSPC backplate. But I'm not 100% sure. But since you're getting XSPC everything else it couldn't hurt right?

Oh wow, that Photon kit comes with compressions too, that's nice, you need two more of those for the GPU. And I think you will want to use Primochill Advance LRT tubing (7/16" ID). The XSPC stuff that comes with your kit will likely give you plasticizer issues.

Plasticizer issues? I know some of those words! lol - ill have to post a seperate thread in /watercooling or something with all my parts and purposed build when i get to it i suppose.

But i think the Photon kit and maybe some rigid tubings/heatgun? It comes with 8 fittings so i should be good if im hooking it up to a rad + cpu + gpu + pump?
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Plasticizer issues? I know some of those words! lol - ill have to post a seperate thread in /watercooling or something with all my parts and purposed build when i get to it i suppose.

But i think the Photon kit and maybe some rigid tubings/heatgun? It comes with 8 fittings so i should be good if im hooking it up to a rad + cpu + gpu + pump?

Naw the kit you linked comes with 6 fittings. You need two more to hook up the GPU.

Plasticizer is basically when the chemical used in the tubing to make it flexible breaks down over time and causes the inside of the tubing to become foggy and eventually can gunk up your blocks or rads. There is no issues like this for rigid acrylic tubing, because its hard and therefore has no plasticizers in it. But also you will need to get all new fittings (the ones that come with the kit are for flexible tubing). But I think for your first time you would be doing yourself a favor by just getting some Primochill Advanced LRT flexible tubing and two more XSPC black chrome compression fittings.
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Cool http://www.overclock.net/t/1380775/what-is-plasticizer - thanks for the advice. I fugure im gonna only do this once a year a most so do it right off the bat since swapping everything out would be annoying.

But..ill mull it over some (flexible vs rigid)
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Man, all this water cooling talk has me looking hard at options. I don't think I'm ready to pull the trigger on a full custom loop, so I'm leaning towards an AIO unit with Richie's GPU Cool bracket. I know, I know...a custom loop is the best solution, but for now I think I just want to take the first step with an AIO.

For those familiar with the AIO units, would a 240 or 280 rad unit be overkill for the GPU core? I can save about $25 going with a 120 or 140 unit, but would I see significant gains from going bigger for a GPU core?

Thanks.
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post #12996 of 43911
^ I'm flip flopping between not going WC at all vs getting a Swiftech H320 (basically an AIO CLC w/ a 360mm rad that is designed to be expanded) and add a full block ($150 for h320 + $100 for gpu block + fittings) vs going all out XSPC Photon (~$300 + $100 for gpu block)

I should maybe think about saving some money tongue.gif
post #12997 of 43911
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Man, all this water cooling talk has me looking hard at options. I don't think I'm ready to pull the trigger on a full custom loop, so I'm leaning towards an AIO unit with Richie's GPU Cool bracket. I know, I know...a custom loop is the best solution, but for now I think I just want to take the first step with an AIO.

For those familiar with the AIO units, would a 240 or 280 rad unit be overkill for the GPU core? I can save about $25 going with a 120 or 140 unit, but would I see significant gains from going bigger for a GPU core?

Thanks.

not sure how much a 240+mm radiator would be an improvement over a 140mm one, but my Corsair H90 keeps my 290x at 50c during full load
post #12998 of 43911
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Man, all this water cooling talk has me looking hard at options. I don't think I'm ready to pull the trigger on a full custom loop, so I'm leaning towards an AIO unit with Richie's GPU Cool bracket. I know, I know...a custom loop is the best solution, but for now I think I just want to take the first step with an AIO.

For those familiar with the AIO units, would a 240 or 280 rad unit be overkill for the GPU core? I can save about $25 going with a 120 or 140 unit, but would I see significant gains from going bigger for a GPU core?

Thanks.

This is what I did. I have an AIO on each of my GTX670's in SLI and also an AIO on my new 290. Temps on the 290 never go above 54c under full load mining. Nowhere near that for gaming, under 50c max. My VRM's are under 55c too. I made some custom coolers out of old CPU coolers by cutting them into pieces to fit the VRM's and RAM. Used zip ties to secure everything along with thermal tape.

Looks hideous on the 290, but works great. They are all mining so I don't care about aesthetics too much. The 670's actually look really nice but the 290 looks downright awful.... It does work well though. Overall, I'm very happy I did it this way. I didn't want to drop $200 per card on custom loops. After the blocks and rads it would be at least that much. The AIO solution cost me 60.00 per GPU card. Saved about 140.00 per card I figure. Although, not as nice looking as a custom loop I admit. I doubt you'll regret it. I will warn though that seating the 290 with an AIO is kinda hard. I used the H80 and the intel bracket. Clipped the tabs off so they were only 1/4" long (just long enough to secure a zip tie) and used one zip tie on each corner. My first attempt was with the AMD bracket pulling across and this didn't work at all. Good luck to you.
     
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At my work im seeing with HIS if their aftermarket cooler will work with the stock cards. If they can im going to order 3 of those and put them on
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Can anyone with reference card 290 please tell me what vrm temps you get on 1.4v and 50% power limit? thumb.gif

also point out your fan speed settings, thanks.
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