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Ok awesome, that saves some serious cash. What about Radiators? If I go up to a 280mm from my current 240mm will that be enough for both CPU and GPU, or would it be better to do something like add a 120mm to the loop? Currently the addition of the GPU has my CPU maxing at 85C at load (think I need to redo my TIM though too) during BF4, and the 290X at stock hits 65C.

I assume that adding a second card would require at least a 280mm added to the loop, these bad boys are quite hot...

2GPU + 4670 you would prefer at least 360mm + 120mm overhead. Thats the standard rule for BASIC cooling. You might be able to sneak through with a MONSTA 360 in push pull. Its really all in how much you overvolt etc.
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So then 1kW is fine for 2 OC 290X and and OC 4770K with all the WC accoutrements?

keeping in mind water also improves the efficiency of the card, so your wattage will drop significantly compared to air too.
   
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2GPU + 4670 you would prefer at least 360mm + 120mm overhead. Thats the standard rule for BASIC cooling. You might be able to sneak through with a MONSTA 360 in push pull. Its really all in how much you overvolt etc.


Basic watercooling equation suggests that every block you use needs a 120mm radiator space, but depends on how hot that component get you may need to get 240mm radiator space for that block. With that being said, the two GPU blocks definitely needs atleast 240mm radiator space while w/ the CPU you can get 120-240mm radiator for it, so a single 360mm radiator can handle CPU+2GPU blocks, while getting it upto 480mm radiator space would give you the most out of the loop. Any more than that isn't really gonna give you a lot of gain in temps, maybe 1C at most.



I don't have space on my mini-ITX build so I had to settle w/ a single 240mm radiator for my GPU+CPU Blocks and so far my CPU has remained under 74C w/ prime95 for 2hrs and my GPU has remained under 45C w/ Kombuster (VRM1 at 48C) while during BF4 session of 2hrs my CPU only maxed out at 71C (averaging 58C) while GPU maxed out at 51C (VRM1 48C).


I am using a EK Supreme LTX for my 3570k @ 4.7Ghz 1.375v while on my 290X(clocked at 1100/1450 at stock voltage) I am using an EK acetal+copper waterblock w/ a single EK XT240 radiator, ambient temp is at 22-25C. Pretty surprised on the temps I am getting, was expecting 5-7C higher knowing that I barely have enough radiator for it, would probably have cut the temps down by 5C (on CPU, GPU is probably gonna only get 1-2C lower) or so w/ an extra thick 120mm radiator.



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keeping in mind water also improves the efficiency of the card, so your wattage will drop significantly compared to air too.



Not to mention noise, LOL. Specially if you're coming from the reference cooler.
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Not to mention noise, LOL. Specially if you're coming from the reference cooler.

is that not the idea of watercooling anyway
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(unless you're using 10k+RPM fans for whatever reason)
   
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is that not the idea of watercooling anyway
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(unless you're using 10k+RPM fans for whatever reason)



Not all high static pressure fans can be quiet, and even if you got a quiet fan if the radiator you are using got too dense fins it will cause noise as well. if part's used hasn't been considered properly to be of low noise even watercooling can get noisy. So no, even if you go watercooling it's not AUTOMATICALLY quiet. Cooling performance is of course goes superb w/o saying but noise is another thing, if you don't select the proper component you may end up having a loud set up as the air cooler you had.
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Oh I went on Water ASAP with the Ref Design, Acetal + Copper Full Block, the Noise difference is worth the loss of CPU head room on the loop, but I do wan to be able to go back to OCing the card, so the puny MCR220QP just wont cut it. Sounds like the best headroom for a 2Fire + CPU would be along the lines of 280mm + 280mm or 360mm + 240mm, depending on what will fit (though I cant say I wont try for the 420mm + 280mm anyway)
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Oh I went on Water ASAP with the Ref Design, Acetal + Copper Full Block, the Noise difference is worth the loss of CPU head room on the loop, but I do wan to be able to go back to OCing the card, so the puny MCR220QP just wont cut it. Sounds like the best headroom for a 2Fire + CPU would be along the lines of 280mm + 280mm or 360mm + 240mm, depending on what will fit (though I cant say I wont try for the 420mm + 280mm anyway)


Do you use that rad as reservoir too? or do you have a separate reservoir or pump/reservoir combo? XSPC AX radiators are great, altho their housing are bigger, I had an AX240 and would have used that instead of the XT240 but it was a lot bigger than my XT240 that it doesn't fit inside the Prodigy case.

XSPC RX radiators would be great. 480mm radiator should be fine but I would personally go for upto 720 total radiator space if you can w/ that set-up (total of 240mm radiator for each block.)
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Not all high static pressure fans can be quiet, and even if you got a quiet fan if the radiator you are using got too dense fins it will cause noise as well. if part's used hasn't been considered properly to be of low noise even watercooling can get noisy. So no, even if you go watercooling it's not AUTOMATICALLY quiet. Cooling performance is of course goes superb w/o saying but noise is another thing, if you don't select the proper component you may end up having a loud set up as the air cooler you had.

yea I know first-hand high-density radiators can be horribly noisy, especially with cheap 2KRPM fans, sounds like a V8, but usually people go for multiple large radiators with fairly low density and decent fans.
   
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Do you use that rad as reservoir too? or do you have a separate reservoir or pump/reservoir combo? XSPC AX radiators are great, altho their housing are bigger, I had an AX240 and would have used that instead of the XT240 but it was a lot bigger than my XT240 that it doesn't fit inside the Prodigy case.

XSPC RX radiators would be great. 480mm radiator should be fine but I would personally go for upto 720 total radiator space if you can w/ that set-up (total of 240mm radiator for each block.)

Mine is the QP Res version, so it has a (tiny) built in res.

720 total... not bad, I'm much less daunted by that prospect now that i have found the Phanteks Enthoo Primo case. Sounds like a fun project for the future, once 290X prices drop (I hope)
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What drivers launched with the 290x? I'm looking for drivers that don't have the vsync/sound issue?
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